GLADSTONES - Case Management Hearing - OUTCOME - UPDATED

ihatetrump

The purpose of this thread is so that Moneysavers can be properly and fully informed and can make their own assessments and form their own opinions when they decide whether or not to appeal a PCN (Parking Charge Notice) to the IAS (Independent Appeals Service) or to potentially settle a PCN by making a payment to "Gladstones".

Many posters and visitors to this Forum mention that they are being pursued by a PPC (Private Parking Company) for an unpaid PCN to which they can appeal to IAS  if they disagree with an initial rejected appeal made to the PPC and then potentially later being pursued by Gladstones following an unsuccessful appeal to the IAS.

But who are you dealing with when you're dealing with the IAS or with Gladstones? Moneysavers need to be aware and adequately informed.

Gladstones Solicitors was formed way back in 2011 owned initially by a John Davies (a Solicitor) but then closely thereafter with Will Hurley (another solicitor) - 51%/49%. In 2012, Davies & Hurley formed the IAS (has had several different names over the years) which they jointly owned - 50/50. You can form your own opinion as to whether there may have been conflicting interests here given the roles that both companies/organisations performed and continue to perform.

In 2017, no doubt when these potential conflicts became known to a wider audience (including on multiple parking forums), Hurley & Davies began the process of legally separating their ownership interests - a process that took them nearly 3 years to complete. The end result is that through their share ownership of two companies (Will Hurley Ltd and Gladstones Holdings Limited), Hurley now owns 100% of the IAS and Davies owns 100% of Gladstones Solicitors.

Gladstones Solcitors as a firm is regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority (Number 559050) and has been since it's formation in 2011.

Both Davies and Hurley are also SRA regulated solicitors.

It has been documented elsewhere about Gladstones https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/register/organisation/?sraNumber=559050

What remains interesting however is that Gladstone Holdings Limited (the 100% owner of Gladstone Solicitors Limited) is also a company regulated by the SRA (Number 660141)

Here's a snapshot of their details from the SRA website: https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/register/organisation/?sraNumber=660141





Note the address - seen that used before.

Conditions Apply - not published, but what does that mean (question for the lawyers on the forum).

Companies House (erroneously IMO) shows Gladstones Holdings Limited as a dormant company (its' Balance Sheet does not disclose the ownership of Gladstones Solcitors Limited)  - and it's already allowed to practice (with conditions). Big question for the lawyers on this forum, if Gladstones Solicitors goes pear shaped as a result of the current SDT action, will it take down Gladstones Holdings also? or will it escape the sanctions and be allowed to trade and presumably be allowed to take over unfinished business from its' subsidiary?

KeithP

Thanks for that.
Just one very small point...
In your first paragraph PCN stands for Parking Charge Notice, not Penalty Charge Notice.

ihatetrump

Thanks and now edited!

Half_way

IAS, shouldn't that be IPC with a separate not about the so called appeals branch?

Having a clear and concise way to join the dots with regards to Gladstones, the IPC and the IAS should form the basics of any landowner complaint, especially when a landowner goes with the fob off of a so called independent appeal available, nothing to do with us.

ihatetrump

IAS, shouldn't that be IPC with a separate not about the so called appeals branch?

This is part of what is so confusing and misleading for so many. 

They are all part of United Trade & Industry Limited. Here's the blurb form their own website:

UNITI is a trading name of United Trade and Industry Limited, a company registered in England and Wales (08248531). Registered Address: 41 Greek Street, Stockport, Cheshire, England, SK3 8AX. This is not a correspondence address.

The following are also trading names; The Independent Appeals Service, The IAS, International Parking Community, Independent Parking Committee, The IPC.

They started life in 2012 as Independent Parking Committee and changed their name in 2016 to United Trade & Industry Limited

Bottom line is they can call themselves what they want, all roads lead to the same person (s) in the end. Use of the word Independent implies something however that many would deem as misleading.

D_P_Dance

Have you seen this?

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/solicitor-check/559050/

Umkomaas

D_P_Dance said:

Have you seen this?

I'm sure it was this OP who first alerted us to this - but thread (and subsequent) were apparently evaporated by website staff. 

KeithP

Umkomaas said:

D_P_Dance said:

Have you seen this?

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/solicitor-check/559050/

I'm sure it was this OP who first alerted us to this - but thread (and subsequent) were apparently evaporated by website staff. 

And as long as DPD keeps posting it, threads will continue to disappear.

ihatetrump

And as long as DPD keeps posting it, threads will continue to disappear.

Which is why I was treading carefully and trying to be subtle in my wording!!!

There are 2 SRA links in the original post, the second one relating Gladstone Holdings in which they have (non-published) conditions attached by the SRA - but will they escape penalty if the hammer falls on the main company?

nicestrawb

I give this thread about another hour lol.

ihatetrump

It's purely about Saving Money m'laud

(i.e. don't give it to Gladstones and claim it back if you have  )