Speeding on the dual

Car_54

NSG666 said:

Alanp said:

It’s usually 10% + 2 mph

Appreciate you said 'usually' but you need to be careful with that method. If you are clocked at 79mph on a 70mph dual carriageway in North Yorkshire the police will take action so really your margin of 'error' is 10%+1mph.

Slider originally suggested that "78 and above would trigger any further action".
That is what Alanp was correcting. The starting point for action is indeed 79 - 110% plus 2.

TooManyPoints

The National Police Chiefs' Council's guidance on speed enforcement suggests that enforcement should begin at (Limit + 10% + 2mph) - so 79mph in a 70mph limit. All forces in England and Wales subscribe to those guidelines. A Notice of Intended Prosecution (a "NIP") must be served on either the driver or the Registered Keeper within 14 days of the alleged offence. Since the driver is almost always unknown that Notice goes to the RK, so you have 14 days to wait.

mcpitman

TooManyPoints said:

The National Police Chiefs' Council's guidance on speed enforcement suggests that enforcement should begin at (Limit + 10% + 2mph) - so 79mph in a 70mph limit. All forces in England and Wales subscribe to those guidelines. A Notice of Intended Prosecution (a "NIP") must be served on either the driver or the Registered Keeper within 14 days of the alleged offence. Since the driver is almost always unknown that Notice goes to the RK, so you have 14 days to wait.

Until someone like Derbyshire decide to do a zero tolerance weekend, and someone like me gets a SAC for 32 in a 30mph zone.

So arguably, no they don't all follow that guidance all of the time.

Manxman_in_exile

@mcpitman -  you got a NIP for doing 32 mph in a 30 mph?

ontheroad1970

mcpitman said:

TooManyPoints said:

The National Police Chiefs' Council's guidance on speed enforcement suggests that enforcement should begin at (Limit + 10% + 2mph) - so 79mph in a 70mph limit. All forces in England and Wales subscribe to those guidelines. A Notice of Intended Prosecution (a "NIP") must be served on either the driver or the Registered Keeper within 14 days of the alleged offence. Since the driver is almost always unknown that Notice goes to the RK, so you have 14 days to wait.

Until someone like Derbyshire decide to do a zero tolerance weekend, and someone like me gets a SAC for 32 in a 30mph zone.

So arguably, no they don't all follow that guidance all of the time.

pepipoo would be very interested as they have seen evidence of this...

Car_54

Manxman_in_exile said:

@mcpitman -  you got a NIP for doing 32 mph in a 30 mph?

He needn't have got a NIP: he may have been stopped at the roadside and failed the attitude test.

neilmcl

Manxman_in_exile said:

@mcpitman -  you got a NIP for doing 32 mph in a 30 mph?

My last NIP was for 33mph in a 30, in Nottingham many moons ago.

TooManyPoints

pepipoo would be very interested as they have seen evidence of this...

They would. However, not because they have seen evidence of it but precisely the opposite - they haven't. I've heard many reports of people seeing action for speeds below the NPCC's guidance threshold - especially in 30mph limits. I've never actually seen anybody post their NIP, though.

TadleyBaggie

There have been many posters on Pepipoo claiming to have caught below the 10%+2 threshold, but to date not one of those ever resulted in a positive confirmation. I've also seen claims that North Wales was going to start prosecutions at anything over the speed limit (i.e. 31 in a 30), but again nothing has ever shown up to confirm this on Pepipoo.

tr7phil

The only time I was caught speeding I was doing 43mph in a 40 and was within 100 metres of the end of speed limit.  I was slightly miffed, this was by a policeman with a speed camera, he pointed out that he had to take it seriously as I was outside a school, I didn't mention to him that it was 6am on a Saturday morning in the school holidays.  That was in 1994 so guidelines might have been different then.