Motoring penalties

TooManyPoints

If you don’t like the fixed penalty, go to court.

Where it will, almost without doubt, cost you more. A court must impose a Victim Surcharge of £34 as a minimum and will almost certainly order £85 prosecution costs as a minimum. This exceeds the £100 FP offered for many offences - and that's before any fine is imposed. A fixed penalty is invariably the best offer you will get - often by far.

jimbo6977

sevenhills said:

TooManyPoints said:

The question Mr Hamilton may ask himself is why did he believe the limit was 40mph? If he answers that honestly (probably along the lines of "It was a dual carriageway and I thought they were automatically 40" or "It was a wide road and looked like it was 40") he may benefit from an awareness course. He would then learn that where there is a system of street lighting and there are no signs to the contrary, then (unless it's a motorway) the limit is 30mph.

I have recently reported an issue to the council where a new estate has been built and the new street going thought the estate has no speed limit signs. Which also invalidates a change in the speed limit in the next street. This was reported months ago.

There's one like this in Lancashire. In building the new estate the contractors took away some street furniture on two main roads in order to install pedestrian refuges. So far so sensible, except two of the items they took away were 40mph speed limit sign, which bring the limit either down from 50mph or up from 30mph depending which direction you're coming from. 

sheramber

sevenhills said:

The Government have now brought in fines of £6,400 if you don't wear a mask, will that work, no because its not a serious fine that will/can be enforced.

Would 'education' work better, probably not. More people need to be caught in order for fines to work.

What has that to do with motoring fines?

That figure is the maximum fine  that  can be given to a repeat offender.

If necessary, the police and Transport for London (TfL) officers have enforcement powers, including issuing fixed penalties of £200 for the first offence (reduced to £100 if paid within 14 days).

Repeat offenders receiving penalties for breaching the requirements on public transport, in a transport hub or in an indoor setting where the wearing of a face covering is mandatory, will have their penalty doubled for each subsequent offence.

After the first offence there will be no discount. For example, a second penalty would be £400, a third £800, up to a maximum of £6,400. Any penalties issued under the 2020 regulations that were in force until earlier this year will not count towards the accumulation of fines levied under the new regulations.

Bigphil1474

theatretony said:

sevenhills said:

A subsequent freedom of information request, submitted by Mr Hamilton, has discovered that in the past year alone over 26,000 people have been caught speeding on this stretch of road at a cost of total £2.6m.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/transport/pure-moneymaking-leeds-firefighter-speed-camera-fury-as-26000-caught-on-same-stretch-of-road-3458705?fbclid=IwAR3c9FF2GOXrr_jjyQAwM45Q-mf8FfMrfLlaUkGQd2FioI0ibLI0nbhH6zo

And I have just got a notice through the post for this exact location... I use this road multiple times a week, and thought I always stick to the limit - I was also caught at 39...

That stretch of the inner Ring Road/York Road in Leeds has been a construction site for over a year for maybe 1 or 2 miles, and there are so many signs, and thousands of road cones, there really is no excuse for speeding along it. The money is being made on the back of motorists who aren't paying attention - it's not the system's fault, it's the drivers. The reason for the reducing the limit is because they are replacing two large sections of overpass bridge on one of the busiest roads in the city with a long contraflow and pedestrian crossings that are normally across one way traffic and are now 2 way traffic. Hardly a bad example of speed cameras doing their job.