DCB Legal letter of claim

jenny3260

Hi Everyone. So I joined this forum a couple of years back and took the advice to ignore all letters demanding payment within 14 days and to come back once/if I receive a letter of claim from DCB Legal. Unfortunately today is the day I received it! This parking charge is from 2017 and originally I took the bad advice from friends that private companies couldn’t pursue anything. Over the years this has caused me a lot of anxiety and so any help with the would be massively appreciated. This particular parking charge was actually paid for! The car park at the time gave the first 4 hours free and then you paid for 12 hours at a time. Because I had parked the first 4 hours free, i then paid for the 12 hours and then the next morning I parked there again which was covered by my existing 12 hours plus another 4 hours free given it was a new day. I was completely under the impression I was covered as that it was I led to believe with the signage. Please help? What are my next steps? I received a letter of claim today but the date on their letter is November the 4th. Sorry if this has already been covered, I have looked at existing threads and a few times the general advice has been to start my own thread so you guys are able to help me prepare for court. I really appreciate any help with this 

patient_dream

Is this a letter before claim or a claim form from Northampton

jenny3260

It’s a letter of claim from DCB Legal giving me 30 days to reply or make payment 

D_P_Dance

Have you read the newbies?  Have you complained to your MP?

patient_dream

jenny3260 said:

It’s a letter of claim from DCB Legal giving me 30 days to reply or make payment 

OK, please ensure you read the NEWBIES thread and also this dedicated thread for DCBL
DCBL letters ... forum group thread
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6237177/dcbl-letters-forum-group-thread#latest

No doubt like everyone, DCBL have added a fake amount to their claim which will not help them

jenny3260

Thank you. So the next steps for me would be to send UK parking control an SAR request and then contact my MP? 

jenny3260

D_P_Dance said:

Have you read the newbies?  Have you complained to your MP?

Hi, I have read the newbies and it seems the general advice is if you have received a letter of claim, to start a thread for advice? I hope I have got this right, I’m taking from it that I send uk parking control a SAR request to give me an extra 30 days to prepare a defence. Do I then wait for a court letter before taking any more action? Is there a template to contact my MP or just a general email regarding what happened? Sorry for all the questions 

KeithP

jenny3260 said:

D_P_Dance said:

Have you read the newbies?

Hi, I have read the newbies and it seems the general advice is if you have received a letter of claim, to start a thread for advice? I hope I have got this right...

Yes, that's right.

The next bit...

...I’m taking from it that I send uk parking control a SAR request to give me an extra 30 days to prepare a defence.

...is not quite right.

You should send a Subject Access Request to UKPC and send a letter/email to DCBL asking them to delay processing for thirty days as you are seeking debt advice.

jenny3260

KeithP said:

jenny3260 said:

D_P_Dance said:

Have you read the newbies?

Hi, I have read the newbies and it seems the general advice is if you have received a letter of claim, to start a thread for advice? I hope I have got this right...

Yes, that's right.

The next bit...

...I’m taking from it that I send uk parking control a SAR request to give me an extra 30 days to prepare a defence.

...is not quite right.

You should send a Subject Access Request to UKPC and send a letter/email to DCBL asking them to delay processing for thirty days as you are seeking debt advice.

Thanks Keith.

I sent a SAR  to ukpc requesting this:

- ALL photos taken
- all letters/emails sent and received, including any appeal correspondence earlier
- all data held, all evidence you will rely on and a full copy of the PCN, NTK

- Photos of signs dated 2017
- Legal authority to add £60 debt collection charges for a 2017 parking ticket and a copy of proof that you paid a debt collector £60
- Landowner authority

-  a list of all PCNs outstanding against me and/or this VRN, may I remind you that any claim must be for all PCNs, not several separate claims 

I will post the reply I received below 

D_P_Dance

They have added what appears to be an extra unlawful amount for debt collection. Judges have dismissed an entire claim because of this. Read this and complain to your MP.

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V%20Excel%20v%20Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

Also read this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6279348/witness-statements-2-transcripts-re-parking-firms-false-costs-recorder-cohen-qc-judgment-2021/p1

jenny3260

Apparently I now have 2 claims against me! I was genuinely unaware of the other or maybe just have been ignorant in noticing the date differences with the letters I have received, either way the notice of claim is for just 1 of these and they haven’t sent all of what I requested. What are my next steps? I have emailed their solicitor also asking for a 30 day hold