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  • Effician
    Effician Posts: 533 Forumite
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    Going to be an interesting day , nat gas futures on ice start over 20% up.
  • Shedman
    Shedman Posts: 1,574 Forumite
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    And are now at 1.30pm over 40% up .....😱
  • wakeupalarm
    wakeupalarm Posts: 1,154 Forumite
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    edited 24 February 2022 at 7:51PM
    They were up 20% yesterday, and are currently 45% up today.  Suddenly those fixed priced deals above the April cap don't seem to bad.

    The energy price cap to hit £3,238 a year for the average home when it's next adjusted in October. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60506940
  • QrizB
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    There's a suggestion that the current geopolitical situation has convinced Germany's Greens to keep their nuclear plants open a bit longer. We'll have to see what comes of it.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
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  • Verdigris
    Verdigris Posts: 1,725 Forumite
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    Better radio-nucliotides than lignite particulates, possibly.
  • QrizB
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    edited 28 February 2022 at 11:41PM
    An interesting 9-tweet Twitter thread from Kwasi Kwarteng - no, really - posted this morning and regarding energy prices.
    Please read: thread on energy security 🧵
    The North Sea is our single largest source of gas, with the bulk of our imports coming from reliable Norway.
    Unlike Europe, we're not reliant on Russian gas.
    But like others, we are vulnerable to high prices set by markets.
    (1/9)
    Firstly, the UK has no gas supply issues.
    The situation we are facing is a price issue, not a security of supply issue.
    Put simply: we have lots of gas from highly diverse and secure sources - but it is very expensive.
    (2/9)
    Secondly, we back North Sea production.
    Good for jobs, energy security, tax revenue to fund public services, and kick-starting a hydrogen economy and CCUS.
    However, additional North Sea production won’t materially affect the wholesale price (certainly not anytime soon).
    (3/9)
    The wholesale price of gas has *quadrupled* in UK and Europe.
    Additional UK production won’t materially affect the wholesale market price.
    This includes fracking – UK producers won’t sell shale gas to UK consumers below the market price. They’re not charities.   (4/9)
    So what can we do?
    Yes, we’ll continue to back North Sea gas for energy security.
    It would be complete madness to turn off our domestic source of gas.
    But the long-term solution is obvious: gas is more expensive than renewable energy, so we need to move away from gas.
    (5/9)
    How?
    Firstly, new nuclear. Needed when the the wind doesn’t blow and the sun doesn’t shine.
    We are reversing 30 years of drift with the first new power station in a generation, more cash for future large projects, and our Nuclear Bill to unblock financial obstacles.
    (6/9)
    Remember: renewables are cheaper than gas.
    UK renewable capacity is up 500% since 2010 - but way more to do.
    So we are accelerating renewables with annual CfD auctions.
    The more cheap, clean power we generate at home, the less exposed we’ll be to global gas markets.
    (7/9)
    Lastly, the best way to keep energy bills down is through energy efficiency upgrades so we use less gas.
    In 2010, just 13% of homes were rated EPC C+, now it’s 48% - but more to do.
    That’s why we are investing over £6.6billion in efficiency upgrades over this Parliament.
    (8/9)
    Now more than ever we must focus on generating cheaper, cleaner power in Britain, for Britain.
    All while helping our European allies move away from their dependency on Russian oil and gas.
    This is how we become energy self-sufficient in the long-term.
    (9/9)
    It's almost like they've got an energy strategy.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
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  • markin
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    Or they could start a uk Gov owned Gas Company, what a revolutionary new idea.

    Any for people who dont know who that is, I didn't.. or forgot his name.
    "Kwasi Alfred Addo Kwarteng (born 26 May 1975)[1][2][3] is a British Conservative Party politician serving as Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy since 2021. He has been the Member of Parliament (MP) for Spelthorne since 2010. " 

  • bristolleedsfan
    bristolleedsfan Posts: 12,649 Forumite
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    ............
  • Sea_Shell
    Sea_Shell Posts: 10,030 Forumite
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    How accurate were Cornwall analysts in predicting the April 22 cap?
    How's it going, AKA, Nutwatch? - 12 month spends to date = 2.60% of current retirement "pot" (as at end May 2025)
  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 18,442 Forumite
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    Cornwall Analysts' track record isn't great but at least they're giving a prediction. In the current market I'd be reluctant to say anything!
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
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