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UKPC CCJ - URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR RESIDENTIAL CAR PARK - FINAL DEFENCE NEEDS PROOF READING PLEASE

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  • Albie234
    Albie234 Posts: 44 Forumite
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    Le_Kirk said:
    If you have filed  AoS, it is unlikely that you have a CCJ more likely a claim form.  Please scan or photograph the papers (take out ANY personal information) and post it on here.  Does it say Claim Form N1 or is it a Notice of Judgment or Order?

    Hey I can't find either N1 or Notice of Judgement on the forms.

    Im going to take a picture and post it on this thread now.
  • Albie234
    Albie234 Posts: 44 Forumite
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    Hey, Here is the form I've been issued, hope this helps!
  • Castle
    Castle Posts: 5,087 Forumite
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    There are two PCN's for each of 10/03/2016, 19/03/2016 and 01/04/2016.
  • Albie234
    Albie234 Posts: 44 Forumite
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    Castle said:
    There are two PCN's for each of 10/03/2016, 19/03/2016 and 01/04/2016.
    I saw this too?! Can they do this?
  • Redx
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    edited 1 October 2021 at 7:08PM
    Albie234 said:
    tboo said:
    Do you have any pictures of all the parking signs that were within the compound etc?


    Along with the SAR to the DPO of UKPC - do I send DCBL the email about putting it on hold today too?
    No , don't send the 30 days holding letter , that is before any live court claim is issued , so too late seeing as that picture above is of the first page of an N1 claim pack from the CCBC in Northampton , it says N1SDT , bottom left

    Yes gather your evidence , but you won't need it for several months , until a few weeks before the hearing ,  so keep everything safe ! This won't finish until maybe next spring !

    Glad to see that you have emailed the SAR
  • Albie234
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    Redx said:
    Albie234 said:
    tboo said:
    Do you have any pictures of all the parking signs that were within the compound etc?


    Along with the SAR to the DPO of UKPC - do I send DCBL the email about putting it on hold today too?
    No , don't send the 30 days holding letter , that is before any live court claim is issued , so too late seeing as that picture above is of the first page of an N1 claim pack from the CCBC in Northampton , it says N1SDT , bottom left

    Yes gather your evidence , but you won't need it for several months , until a few weeks before the hearing ,  so keep everything safe ! This won't finish until maybe next spring !

    Glad to see that you have emailed the SAR
    Ok thanks.

    Great, I'll start gathering evidence, and file these forms away safely, along with any evidence I get.

    Is it too late to speak to the Landowner? Would they still have any power in this situation?

    Is there anything else I can do (apart from defence letter)?
  • Redx
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    edited 1 October 2021 at 7:17PM
    Definitely complain to the landowner , managing agent , plus anyone else who will listen , the fact that you had a fob proves that if they gave you the fob they granted the right to park , try to get a witness statement , in writing , signed and dated

    Then crack on with those Defence paragraphs , they are important now !
  • Albie234
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    Redx said:
    Definitely complain to the landowner , managing agent , plus anyone else who will listen , the fact that you had a fob proves that if they gave you the fob they granted the right to park
    will do, thanks 
  • Johnersh
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    That's embarrassing. Even a competent paralegal would have those in date order which would have eliminated any possibility of duplication of specific dates. 

    You need the wording of the signs, but usually its per 24 hrs or part thereof, which would mean to charge twice on any single day they'd need to prove the driver left and a fresh charge issued.

    I imagine that these are windscreen not postal, but it seems likely that nearly £500 comes off the claim before we begin. Who checked this? Does their client really approve the claim drafted in that amount and do they have evidence of that?

    Still it's important to understand the whole history to this plethora of claims before sending in a withering defence dealing with the more obvious limitations. 
  • Albie234
    Albie234 Posts: 44 Forumite
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    Johnersh said:
    That's embarrassing. Even a competent paralegal would have those in date order which would have eliminated any possibility of duplication of specific dates. 

    You need the wording of the signs, but usually its per 24 hrs or part thereof, which would mean to charge twice on any single day they'd need to prove the driver left and a fresh charge issued.

    I imagine that these are windscreen not postal, but it seems likely that nearly £500 comes off the claim before we begin. Who checked this? Does their client really approve the claim drafted in that amount and do they have evidence of that?

    Still it's important to understand the whole history to this plethora of claims before sending in a withering defence dealing with the more obvious limitations. 
    Thanks for the reply, it is embarrassing! but I guess good for me haha 

    I will obtain the wording of the signage and post it on here asap.
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