Learning to walk before I run

badmemory

The number of swear words that I actually feel about this whole situation would probably get me banned.  Just think that the MPs pay rise this year would pay my whole energy bill.  But according to the BOE guy we shouldn't be pushing for too much pay rise, which from someone on over half a million a year seems just a tad insulting (polite version)

themadvix

badmemory said:

The number of swear words that I actually feel about this whole situation would probably get me banned.  Just think that the MPs pay rise this year would pay my whole energy bill.  But according to the BOE guy we shouldn't be pushing for too much pay rise, which from someone on over half a million a year seems just a tad insulting (polite version)

This sums up how I feel too.... Those in power have absolutely no idea what it's like to live on a normal, let alone low, income.

Karmacat

themadvix said:

badmemory said:

The number of swear words that I actually feel about this whole situation would probably get me banned.  Just think that the MPs pay rise this year would pay my whole energy bill.  But according to the BOE guy we shouldn't be pushing for too much pay rise, which from someone on over half a million a year seems just a tad insulting (polite version)

This sums up how I feel too.... Those in power have absolutely no idea what it's like to live on a normal, let alone low, income.

Totally agree.  They don't have a clue.

edinburgher

badmemory said:

The number of swear words that I actually feel about this whole situation would probably get me banned.  Just think that the MPs pay rise this year would pay my whole energy bill.  But according to the BOE guy we shouldn't be pushing for too much pay rise, which from someone on over half a million a year seems just a tad insulting (polite version)

I think Faisal Islam's total incredulity on the BBC interview was hilarious! Yes, a man who earns 3x? What the PM does told us not to ask for more   

Or 30 home carers

Watty1

nodding along in agreement here

Suffolk_lass

Watty1 said:

nodding along in agreement here

Me too. We were also incandescent when Bodge resorted to fake news to attack KS about the vile !!!!!! - his advisor has gone up in our estimation. Both DH and I took to twittering about it to accounts that his people will read

BTW @Watty1 we also have a flicking cat (daughter of a feral mother) - we use a very deep tray on one of those enormous 1m square seed tray drip catchers. It does help, especially when she misses

try_harder

I absolutely agree with what everyone is saying re the loan ,how on earth can it be helpful to anyone ..Meanwhile they smirk and congratulate each other on the great gifts they bestow on us common folk

Alchemilla

try_harder said:

I absolutely agree with what everyone is saying re the loan ,how on earth can it be helpful to anyone ..Meanwhile they smirk and congratulate each other on the great gifts they bestow on us common folk

Amen to that.

QueenJess

try_harder said:

I absolutely agree with what everyone is saying re the loan ,how on earth can it be helpful to anyone ..Meanwhile they smirk and congratulate each other on the great gifts they bestow on us common folk

Is more political posturing so it looks like they’ve done something and think everyone will be grateful for £200 off. However, it’s not enough and they assume no one will realise that they’ve just moved the payments to later and kicked the can down the road rather than solving anything.

Rishi doesn’t like giving any money away until he’s shamed into it with his arm twisted behind his back. Probably the next PM if Johnson can be thrown out the building.

Suffolk_lass

QueenJess said:

try_harder said:

I absolutely agree with what everyone is saying re the loan ,how on earth can it be helpful to anyone ..Meanwhile they smirk and congratulate each other on the great gifts they bestow on us common folk

Is more political posturing so it looks like they’ve done something and think everyone will be grateful for £200 off. However, it’s not enough and they assume no one will realise that they’ve just moved the payments to later and kicked the can down the road rather than solving anything.

Rishi doesn’t like giving any money away until he’s shamed into it with his arm twisted behind his back. Probably the next PM if Johnson can be thrown out the building.

It's the Treasury, not just the politicians. I take your point but people voted for this government. They have a huge majority.

In the world-wide financial crisis in 2008 the Government propped up the banks to stabilise the British economy. In my view that world-wide crisis was similar to the pandemic impact and the energy crisis today. The difference is in the transparency and method and the likelihood of getting that support back (and therefore the long-term risk).

VIP contracts is the worse scandal in my view (we had to act fast, we did our best... - no, you gave literally billions of state money to your friends and supporters and some of yourselves, many of whom had no business experience in the relevant area, as we are now finding out). I notice the messaging rhetoric that the Labour Party wrecked the UK economy has been dropped since the car-crash pandemic financial impacts are emerging.

The culture of the personality prevails. Memories are short and people believe what they read. If they do (read). The average person has no interest in politics or the dark arts of communications and influencing. Many think Boris is a bit of a blokey bloke and fun. The timed resignations of his private office team to be the same day as his brain (Policy chief Munira Mirza) is camouflage for that serious loss, and his "Boris is getting a grip" No 10 message is trying to play down the importance of the loss of that ally. Today Partygate, the Covid crimewave and the financial mismanagement are buried beneath lead stories about the Queen, her accession, and her wishes for her daughter in law. Move on, nothing to see here. We are all being played.