Noisy neighbour - sense check

lil_homer

You mentioned they seemed nice/approachable so I would have a chat with them. They may be oblivious of the impact they are having. If you leave it so the stress builds up then you’re more likely to end up shouting when you reach breaking point. I had a neighbour yell at me (completely different issue not noise related) and I was able to sort the problem within days but it would have been quicker and less stressful for both of us if he’d have spoken to me months before. Maybe you can come to an agreement that the music goes off/down after a certain time?

Redscope77

Another neighbour had the chat, it didn't go down well as there has been some arguing.   I'm hoping with autumn and winter upon us means no parties.  Fingers crossed 

Rich2808

Once a month in summer - its difficult to complain too much but I appreciate the annoyance as loud bass sound systems are loud and inescapable if you are within 50 metres. Hopefully you won't have many outdoor parties from October to March - unless of course they like fireworks!

I can recommend Mack's silicone earplugs on Amazon if you can't stretch to noise cancelling earbuds or headphones.

You have a detached house - so it could be a lot worse. Think of those of us in flats with constant impact noise from running toddlers and heavy footed types or music.

Could you not go out if you know its happening - for a meal, to the cinema or something.

In the end this is the issue with buying property in crowded UK - you can have the most lovely place but if your neighbours are unpleasant, anti social and inconsiderate it spoils everything.  And there is nothing you can do about them usually. Contacting the council takes months - and they haven't the resources except for the most serious of cases (usually where violence and physical threats are a daily occurrence).

lookstraightahead

Rich2808 said:

Once a month in summer - its difficult to complain too much but I appreciate the annoyance as loud bass sound systems are loud and inescapable if you are within 50 metres. Hopefully you won't have many outdoor parties from October to March - unless of course they like fireworks!

I can recommend Mack's silicone earplugs on Amazon if you can't stretch to noise cancelling earbuds or headphones.

You have a detached house - so it could be a lot worse. Think of those of us in flats with constant impact noise from running toddlers and heavy footed types or music.

Could you not go out if you know its happening - for a meal, to the cinema or something.

In the end this is the issue with buying property in crowded UK - you can have the most lovely place but if your neighbours are unpleasant, anti social and inconsiderate it spoils everything.  And there is nothing you can do about them usually. Contacting the council takes months - and they haven't the resources except for the most serious of cases (usually where violence and physical threats are a daily occurrence).

Very logical. All those hours and days of worry when you can just go away somewhere for the night. One night a month! 

Norman_Castle

lookstraightahead said:

Rich2808 said:

Once a month in summer - its difficult to complain too much but I appreciate the annoyance as loud bass sound systems are loud and inescapable if you are within 50 metres. Hopefully you won't have many outdoor parties from October to March - unless of course they like fireworks!

I can recommend Mack's silicone earplugs on Amazon if you can't stretch to noise cancelling earbuds or headphones.

You have a detached house - so it could be a lot worse. Think of those of us in flats with constant impact noise from running toddlers and heavy footed types or music.

Could you not go out if you know its happening - for a meal, to the cinema or something.

In the end this is the issue with buying property in crowded UK - you can have the most lovely place but if your neighbours are unpleasant, anti social and inconsiderate it spoils everything.  And there is nothing you can do about them usually. Contacting the council takes months - and they haven't the resources except for the most serious of cases (usually where violence and physical threats are a daily occurrence).

Very logical. All those hours and days of worry when you can just go away somewhere for the night. One night a month! 

Nobody should have to "just" leave there home once a month to allow a neighbour to be unnecessarily noisy. "Just" turning the music down is far simpler.

Intelligent adults take responsibility for their unwelcome behaviour.

lookstraightahead

Norman_Castle said:

lookstraightahead said:

Rich2808 said:

Once a month in summer - its difficult to complain too much but I appreciate the annoyance as loud bass sound systems are loud and inescapable if you are within 50 metres. Hopefully you won't have many outdoor parties from October to March - unless of course they like fireworks!

I can recommend Mack's silicone earplugs on Amazon if you can't stretch to noise cancelling earbuds or headphones.

You have a detached house - so it could be a lot worse. Think of those of us in flats with constant impact noise from running toddlers and heavy footed types or music.

Could you not go out if you know its happening - for a meal, to the cinema or something.

In the end this is the issue with buying property in crowded UK - you can have the most lovely place but if your neighbours are unpleasant, anti social and inconsiderate it spoils everything.  And there is nothing you can do about them usually. Contacting the council takes months - and they haven't the resources except for the most serious of cases (usually where violence and physical threats are a daily occurrence).

Very logical. All those hours and days of worry when you can just go away somewhere for the night. One night a month! 

Nobody should have to "just" leave there home once a month to allow a neighbour to be unnecessarily noisy. "Just" turning the music down is far simpler.

Intelligent adults take responsibility for their unwelcome behaviour.

But they're not going to stop. So what should happen next. Please do enlighten me as to what you think the outcome might be here! 

So far op is upset and it is having an adverse affect. Neighbour had been round to culprit and fallen out. If it's made official it will have to be put on sales particulars.

what is the answer here?  Telling the neighbour they're not very responsible? 

Rich2808

Norman_Castle said:

lookstraightahead said:

Rich2808 said:

Once a month in summer - its difficult to complain too much but I appreciate the annoyance as loud bass sound systems are loud and inescapable if you are within 50 metres. Hopefully you won't have many outdoor parties from October to March - unless of course they like fireworks!

I can recommend Mack's silicone earplugs on Amazon if you can't stretch to noise cancelling earbuds or headphones.

You have a detached house - so it could be a lot worse. Think of those of us in flats with constant impact noise from running toddlers and heavy footed types or music.

Could you not go out if you know its happening - for a meal, to the cinema or something.

In the end this is the issue with buying property in crowded UK - you can have the most lovely place but if your neighbours are unpleasant, anti social and inconsiderate it spoils everything.  And there is nothing you can do about them usually. Contacting the council takes months - and they haven't the resources except for the most serious of cases (usually where violence and physical threats are a daily occurrence).

Very logical. All those hours and days of worry when you can just go away somewhere for the night. One night a month! 

Nobody should have to "just" leave there home once a month to allow a neighbour to be unnecessarily noisy. "Just" turning the music down is far simpler.

Intelligent adults take responsibility for their unwelcome behaviour.

Perhaps - but some people have to put up with noisy unpleasant neighbours - or just impact noise from daily living due to poorly built flats - seven days a week the entire time they are home. So we need some context here - if you can afford to live in a detached house you are better off than most.

If it was several times a week all year round - especially on week nights when work next day is an issue -  I would have total sympathy. Cos that is what many many people suffer.

But if its once a month on a Saturday evening from May to September - I am afraid that is just something you may have to live with.  And if you can see the guests arriving or your neighbours getting prepared - perhaps book an evening out at a nice restaurant or go to the cinema or local theatre or go for a drive especially if its a nice summer evening. If of course you are elderly and housebound that is different - but its the one benefit of deteriorating hearing.

Sadly this is just a function of living in a crowded country where many people are inconsiderate - you either move or find ways to deal with it for one night out of every 28!

Norman_Castle

lookstraightahead said:

Norman_Castle said:

lookstraightahead said:

Rich2808 said:

Once a month in summer - its difficult to complain too much but I appreciate the annoyance as loud bass sound systems are loud and inescapable if you are within 50 metres. Hopefully you won't have many outdoor parties from October to March - unless of course they like fireworks!

I can recommend Mack's silicone earplugs on Amazon if you can't stretch to noise cancelling earbuds or headphones.

You have a detached house - so it could be a lot worse. Think of those of us in flats with constant impact noise from running toddlers and heavy footed types or music.

Could you not go out if you know its happening - for a meal, to the cinema or something.

In the end this is the issue with buying property in crowded UK - you can have the most lovely place but if your neighbours are unpleasant, anti social and inconsiderate it spoils everything.  And there is nothing you can do about them usually. Contacting the council takes months - and they haven't the resources except for the most serious of cases (usually where violence and physical threats are a daily occurrence).

Very logical. All those hours and days of worry when you can just go away somewhere for the night. One night a month! 

Nobody should have to "just" leave there home once a month to allow a neighbour to be unnecessarily noisy. "Just" turning the music down is far simpler.

Intelligent adults take responsibility for their unwelcome behaviour.

But they're not going to stop. So what should happen next. Please do enlighten me as to what you think the outcome might be here! 

So far op is upset and it is having an adverse affect. Neighbour had been round to culprit and fallen out. If it's made official it will have to be put on sales particulars.

what is the answer here?  Telling the neighbour they're not very responsible? 

Who said they're not going to stop? There's been one complaint so far. There was an argument but that doesn't mean the noisy neighbour wont take notice of the complaint. If the noise continues other neighbours who are bothered by the noise should complain.

Norman_Castle

Rich2808 said:

Norman_Castle said:

lookstraightahead said:

Rich2808 said:

Once a month in summer - its difficult to complain too much but I appreciate the annoyance as loud bass sound systems are loud and inescapable if you are within 50 metres. Hopefully you won't have many outdoor parties from October to March - unless of course they like fireworks!

I can recommend Mack's silicone earplugs on Amazon if you can't stretch to noise cancelling earbuds or headphones.

You have a detached house - so it could be a lot worse. Think of those of us in flats with constant impact noise from running toddlers and heavy footed types or music.

Could you not go out if you know its happening - for a meal, to the cinema or something.

In the end this is the issue with buying property in crowded UK - you can have the most lovely place but if your neighbours are unpleasant, anti social and inconsiderate it spoils everything.  And there is nothing you can do about them usually. Contacting the council takes months - and they haven't the resources except for the most serious of cases (usually where violence and physical threats are a daily occurrence).

Very logical. All those hours and days of worry when you can just go away somewhere for the night. One night a month! 

Nobody should have to "just" leave there home once a month to allow a neighbour to be unnecessarily noisy. "Just" turning the music down is far simpler.

Intelligent adults take responsibility for their unwelcome behaviour.

Perhaps - but some people have to put up with noisy unpleasant neighbours - or just impact noise from daily living due to poorly built flats - seven days a week the entire time they are home. So we need some context here - if you can afford to live in a detached house you are better off than most.

If it was several times a week all year round - especially on week nights when work next day is an issue -  I would have total sympathy. Cos that is what many many people suffer.

People do have to tolerate neighbour noise due to building type but that's because its unavoidable. Most people accept they need to modify their behaviour to suit where they live. Regularly playing amplified music outside and expecting the neighbours to put up with it or go out is unnecessary and selfish.

lookstraightahead

Norman_Castle said:

Rich2808 said:

Norman_Castle said:

lookstraightahead said:

Rich2808 said:

Once a month in summer - its difficult to complain too much but I appreciate the annoyance as loud bass sound systems are loud and inescapable if you are within 50 metres. Hopefully you won't have many outdoor parties from October to March - unless of course they like fireworks!

I can recommend Mack's silicone earplugs on Amazon if you can't stretch to noise cancelling earbuds or headphones.

You have a detached house - so it could be a lot worse. Think of those of us in flats with constant impact noise from running toddlers and heavy footed types or music.

Could you not go out if you know its happening - for a meal, to the cinema or something.

In the end this is the issue with buying property in crowded UK - you can have the most lovely place but if your neighbours are unpleasant, anti social and inconsiderate it spoils everything.  And there is nothing you can do about them usually. Contacting the council takes months - and they haven't the resources except for the most serious of cases (usually where violence and physical threats are a daily occurrence).

Very logical. All those hours and days of worry when you can just go away somewhere for the night. One night a month! 

Nobody should have to "just" leave there home once a month to allow a neighbour to be unnecessarily noisy. "Just" turning the music down is far simpler.

Intelligent adults take responsibility for their unwelcome behaviour.

Perhaps - but some people have to put up with noisy unpleasant neighbours - or just impact noise from daily living due to poorly built flats - seven days a week the entire time they are home. So we need some context here - if you can afford to live in a detached house you are better off than most.

If it was several times a week all year round - especially on week nights when work next day is an issue -  I would have total sympathy. Cos that is what many many people suffer.

People do have to tolerate neighbour noise due to building type but that's because its unavoidable. Most people accept they need to modify their behaviour to suit where they live. Regularly playing amplified music outside and expecting the neighbours to put up with it or go out is unnecessary and selfish.

Norman, just out of interest (and I don't disagree with your concept).

My OH works nights. We live in a lovely countryside area where people constantly have their mowers going, sheds being built, kids on trampolines, dogs barking , cockerels oinking (!) etc. Mostly lifestyle and not essential. Apart from the law, what difference is there whether day or night? 

I'm really interested in noise pollution as I have an absolute hate of road traffic and had to move because of it (couldn't stop the traffic unfortunately 😂).
I would never have an outdoor party til two - I am over cautious with noise to the point I put myself out. 

But my neighbours, who are lovely, don't give two hoots about my husband, probably because it's day time and it's legal.