Supermarket workers pinged

Tokmon

briskbeats said:

Pollycat said:

briskbeats said:

Reason why I didn’t download track and trace app is not suitable for those living in flats.

Bluetooth doesn’t recognise levels. So people are getting pinged when it’s actually for someone living above or below them.

My neighbour got tested positive in mid Jan. She’s not downloaded the app. A relative of hers got pinged after a client tested positive. That meant I would have got pinged end June.

You mentioned this in your opening post.

You had a very considered response here:

Tokmon said:

Where have you got your information that the app doesn't work properly in flats?

Many people are saying this but have it just seems to be based on rumours and not understanding how the app actually functions. The app doesn't simply just look at all Bluetooth signals and determine them all as contacts it also looks at the signal strength and any signal going through a wall will be very measurably weaker.

Also why would you have the app on while at home? You simply need to turn it off when your home and back on when out just like you should when your phone isn't with you.

Plus if you did get a notification to isolate then you can legally ignore it. So no real reason to not have it and delete it.

Do you have evidence that the T&T app doesn't work in flats?

Or are you listening to rumours?

Do you think it would be sensible to have the app installed but turn it off when you're at home?

I refuse to download it as my employer is having staff shortages due to this. One less pinged employee. I am one who keeps forgetting to put my phone out of silent mode when Im at home, so chances are, I will forget to turn off app when I'm at home.

You seem to have every excuse to not use the app and they seem to be come from that you think it won't work but have little to no understanding of how how it actually works. 

At the very least you could have the app and if you ever did test positive you could input it into the app and then help other people who have it and want to be careful. 

Considering you can just ignore any pings if you wanted but it would potentially help others to have the app i think it's a bit selfish to actively choose not to have it. 

briskbeats

On Saturday saw someone at my work going through self scan buying about 40 jars of peanut butter, jam and honey!

Pollycat

lisyloo said:

Pollycat said:

lisyloo said:

Pollycat said:

sweetgirl2015 said:

Andy_L said:

There is, and never has been,  any legal requirement to isolate if pinged by the app

So what was the point of it then? I thought it was a legal requirement hence why the government created the furlough scheme.
It may aswell not exist if people dont obide by it. 
That said I just been pinged myself and faced with all sorts of problems. Mine being I deal with vunerable people, so surely I should follow the requirements, legal or otherwise? 

What is the bigger risk?

You actually having covid and passing it on to the people you are caring for?

Or those people you care for going without food because you are not there to prepare it?

Or trying to do something that you usually do for them and having an accident? Like leaving the gas on or standing on a chair to get something out of a cupboard?

That assumes that absolutely no-one else can feed these people (I believe the people concerned have a son who has not been pinged).

I don't believe anyone is really facing that choice.
There are social services, charities, churches, paid carers, volunteers and even their own son.

I was not assuming anything.

That poster asked for ideas on coping after being pinged and having responsibility for 3 people on her other thread.

I offered suggestions on that thread.

As did you.

As one of those suggestions I asked if there were adult children.

The OP of that thread has not responded.

I have not seen any mention of a son on that or this thread (although I may have missed it).

Here you are from #1
”I'm a full time carer for my hubbys parents” 

I would have thought it was clear from my post that I was talking about adult children of the OP. Not children of the people the OP is caring for.

I specifically mentioned the OP's husband.

And then asked if there were adult children.

Pollycat said:

Is there nobody who can help out for the 3 days next week?

Can't your husband take annual leave?

No adult children?

No neighbours?

I'm pleased that the OP of that thread has found a solution.

And I hope that some thought will be given to who cares for the cared for if the OP ever finds herself in a situation where she can't do so.

lisyloo

No sorry, it wasn't clear to me that you were talking about sweetgirl's potential offspring (and doubt they'd have asked if they had a capable adult available TBH) but I will take care to read carefully in future.

yes agree totally that sweetgirl needs a backup for essential care (like food) if she is ever ill, injured or on holiday in the future especially if they need help with food preparation i.e. daily.

We got help from social services when it became more than family could cope with.
Ours were very good and offered more than we expected.
The day care center with free transport was very good for very little money.
They even sent a carer to take FIL our for coffee/cake just for company which is amazing really.

Davesnave

briskbeats said:

On Saturday saw someone at my work going through self scan buying about 40 jars of peanut butter, jam and honey!

That's panic buying and not what I've done.

One problem is that no training of HGV drivers has gone on due to social distancing etc so there's no one replacing those who've retired or gone to other jobs.

briskbeats

Davesnave said:

briskbeats said:

On Saturday saw someone at my work going through self scan buying about 40 jars of peanut butter, jam and honey!

That's panic buying and not what I've done.

One problem is that no training of HGV drivers has gone on due to social distancing etc so there's no one replacing those who've retired or gone to other jobs.

Yet driving cars learning is going ahead. Both instructor and learner wear masks. What’s different with lorries? The distance between seats is wider than in a car.