Can anyone comment on this boundary issue

Norman_Castle

Tyler_Durden_UK said:

Plants have been repotted

Gravel on the soil?

Jeepers_Creepers

Norman_Castle said:

Tyler_Durden_UK said:

Plants have been repotted

Gravel on the soil?

Looks nice. And Tyler can still add a plant or two as he see fit.

Tyler, are these your pots? If so, how about sending your neighb that photo along with "Your plants are in pots and I'll happily water them until you sort them out. Please note that these pots - like that piece of land - is my property, so, to be absolutely clear, they are on loan only :-) "

And I do mean you should add the smiley...

Do not engage with any come-backs, moans, threats, mess, anything, unless it's with "Don't be silly."

Monsternextdoor

 

Round one to Tyler ! 

I have to love the Ive not been well text !! That is the default for 'I thought you would leave it alone'

Id have put them in pots as well and kept them watered as it makes them look like the unreasonable party if and when they start trying to replant them. 

I'd be an utter bum tho and enlarge and laminate the deeds and display them in the front windows  

Section62

Jeepers_Creepers said:

Tyler, are these your pots? If so, how about sending your neighb that photo along with "Your plants are in pots and I'll happily water them until you sort them out. Please note that these pots - like that piece of land - is my property, so, to be absolutely clear, they are on loan only :-) "

And I do mean you should add the smiley...

I would say that in the circumstances Tyler adding the smiley would be foolish.  If the neighbour does attempt legal action then this message with the smiley included could be interpreted as vindictive and nasty, potentially undoing the good work Tyler has done in carefully lifting the plants and potting them up.

Also, why are you deviating from the 'mantra' and now suggesting Tyler puts in writing that the piece of land was "on loan" to the neighbour?  That would appear to be a similarly unwise thing to do when Tyler has just 'evicted' the neighbour and their plants, possibly without following the correct process to terminate the (undocumented?) agreement.

Or was that not what you meant?

That's a potential problem with being clever - the unnecessary (/vindictive and nasty) inclusion of the words "like that piece of land" creates an ambiguity which the neighbour's solicitor could exploit.  The less said, and the least cleverness, the lower the probability of making a tactical error which could cause problems later.

Tyler_Durden_UK

Norman_Castle said:

Tyler_Durden_UK said:

Plants have been repotted

Gravel on the soil?

Gravel on the pots or on my side, I've put stones down on my side, one plant / tree is still in-situ as it going to be difficult to remove / replant without damaging the roots I would have thought.
I wonder what the legal position is regarding the concrete edging pieces (on my land), they put them in when they blocked paved their drive few years back

Norman_Castle

I'd leave them. They're only two inches thick. Worry about them when either of you decides to be very picky about the exact boundary and who owns what. They'll probably also be keeping her blocks in place so removing them could cause pointless problems.

Jeepers_Creepers

Section62 said:

Jeepers_Creepers said:

Tyler, are these your pots? If so, how about sending your neighb that photo along with "Your plants are in pots and I'll happily water them until you sort them out. Please note that these pots - like that piece of land - is my property, so, to be absolutely clear, they are on loan only :-) "

And I do mean you should add the smiley...

I would say that in the circumstances Tyler adding the smiley would be foolish.  If the neighbour does attempt legal action then this message with the smiley included could be interpreted as vindictive and nasty, potentially undoing the good work Tyler has done in carefully lifting the plants and potting them up.

Also, why are you deviating from the 'mantra' and now suggesting Tyler puts in writing that the piece of land was "on loan" to the neighbour?  That would appear to be a similarly unwise thing to do when Tyler has just 'evicted' the neighbour and their plants, possibly without following the correct process to terminate the (undocumented?) agreement.

Or was that not what you meant?

That's a potential problem with being clever - the unnecessary (/vindictive and nasty) inclusion of the words "like that piece of land" creates an ambiguity which the neighbour's solicitor could exploit.  The less said, and the least cleverness, the lower the probability of making a tactical error which could cause problems later.

Dear lawd...

No, the land wasn't on loan - the pots are. Both belong to Tyler. That is a perfectly justified comment; it indicates that Tyler doesn't trust them (because they have shown themselves as untrustworthy) and that Tyler is not concerned about the case - the smile reinforces this.

These folk are devious - they need to realise that Tyler is nonplussed. Bemused. Finds this just bizarre.

'Vindictive'? Good lawd...

"Don't be silly" is a perfectly acceptable reply too. These folk WANT a reaction. They are provocative. They need to know they are not getting under anyone's skin.

Strange you said nothing about the neighbour's genuinely 'vindictive and nasty' "I wish you luck!" Because, I don't think they mean it... Tyler does.

Honesty is a bu&&er, isn't it?

Jeepers_Creepers

Tyler_Durden_UK said:

Norman_Castle said:

Tyler_Durden_UK said:

Plants have been repotted

Gravel on the soil?

Gravel on the pots or on my side, I've put stones down on my side, one plant / tree is still in-situ as it going to be difficult to remove / replant without damaging the roots I would have thought.
I wonder what the legal position is regarding the concrete edging pieces (on my land), they put them in when they blocked paved their drive few years back

These belong to the neighbour. If they want them back, they'll need to remove them without causing any damage to your drive.

Definitely record the full process of them digging them out should they choose this route - which they might well do as they are undoubtedly that petty. I wonder just how thick their skin is for them to remove them whilst being videoed. You will be doing this, of course, not for 'fun', but to ensure no damage is caused to your property. Make it clear to them - they have lost all trust and entitlement to any consideration by trying to steal your land.

In theory, you can refuse them entry on to your property, so they would have to go through a legal process to gain access - at a cost only to them (you won't be 'defending' this, but just insisting on the whatsitcalled? to be delivered. At which point you smile, say ok, and then get out your camera...)

Princessa_2

Are you planning on doing anything to the land to further make it obviously yours? Will you be planting things in it? I’d want to pave it like the rest of the drive I think.

Section62

Jeepers_Creepers said:

No, the land wasn't on loan - the pots are. Both belong to Tyler. That is a perfectly justified comment; it indicates that Tyler doesn't trust them (because they have shown themselves as untrustworthy) and that Tyler is not concerned about the case - the smile reinforces this.

Well yes, but that wasn't what your proposed message said - if someone wanted to interpret it in a way which was useful to the neighbour's case.

The point being - in a 'legal' situation don't say stuff you don't need to (even if justified) - because anything you do say might be open to (mis)interpretaion and come back to bite you.

Keep it short. Keep it simple. Keep it polite.

Jeepers_Creepers said:

Strange you said nothing about the neighbour's genuinely 'vindictive and nasty' "I wish you luck!" Because, I don't think they mean it... Tyler does.

Why 'strange'?

Although whatever, surely you are familiar with the phrase "don't sink to their level"?

Tyler has done a good job following the advice on this thread and carefully removing the plants and potting them up. It would be foolish to ruin that effort by adopting schoolyard tactics in further (unnecessary) communications.

"I've put your plants in pots temporarily to keep them alive, please let me have the pots back when you are finished with them" is all that needs to be said.  No vindictiveness. No misinterpretation, other than perhaps "finished with them" is open-ended and Tyler could have a long time to wait.