Can anyone comment on this boundary issue

Jeepers_Creepers

Silver_Shark said:

The OP has been in his house for ten years, the neighbour took possession of that land long before he moved in. He only has to prove he legally owns that land.

Which is great, since he doesn't.

Silver_Shark

Jeepers_Creepers said:

Silver_Shark said:

It's not a legal dispute until the neighbour goes to a solicitor and proves they have been using your land for eighteen years and it will cost them. In the meantime it's your land and if I were you I'd offer to sell it to them to settle the dispute.

I'd only offer to sell it to them as a joke - a snip at £30k, or go whistle.

(I wouldn't offer to sell it at all...)

You're right, he doesn't have to offer to sell it to them at all but it's an easy solution to settle a dispute that can be long running when solicitors are involved..

Tyler_Durden_UK

I have no plans to sell the land to them. 

Jeepers_Creepers

Silver_Shark said:

Jeepers_Creepers said:

Silver_Shark said:

It's not a legal dispute until the neighbour goes to a solicitor and proves they have been using your land for eighteen years and it will cost them. In the meantime it's your land and if I were you I'd offer to sell it to them to settle the dispute.

I'd only offer to sell it to them as a joke - a snip at £30k, or go whistle.

(I wouldn't offer to sell it at all...)

You're right, he doesn't have to offer to sell it to them at all but it's an easy solution to settle a dispute that can be long running when solicitors are involved..

There is a much easier solution. Do nothing, but tend your land.

Jeepers_Creepers

Tyler_Durden_UK said:

I wonder is she can reply on the post 2002 rule - 

1. Reasonable mistake as to the boundary: that the squatter owns land adjacent to the subject land and reasonably believes that they owned the subject land.

No. Just as with everything else, they haven't had sole use of this land without permission. Their deeds will show - just as clearly as yours do - that this piece of land ain't theirs. There's no 'reasonably believed' about it; it's fact, in B&W.

Tyler, you need to decide what exact mantra to follow with this, depending on what you've said to them before, and whether any of this was witnessed or recorded. If it fits in better, you could say - whenever you considered it at all - that it might have been a shared 'responsibility', even tho' it is clearly within your boundary line. But you have also tended to it too, haven't you? Haven't you...?

Jeepers_Creepers

Remind yourself what you are dealing with. These folk are deluded. I mean that in its full sense - they most likely 'believe' what they are doing is fair and reasonable. In their heads, they are heroes and victims - never the villain. The exact opposite is, of course, the truth.

When Boris sits in the HoC getting slagged off even by folk on his own side for telling utter whoppers, he just shakes his head in that punchable manner. The thing is, he really believes it's unfair that he's been picked on like this. He's a bona-fide narc.

Your neighbs are likely the same. Any comms with them will run the full gamut from threats and intimidation, wild claims, right down to the seemingly conciliatory. It's all delusion. None of it is genuine - but they believe it. You will look in their eyes and wonder how the hell they can say what they are saying, but all you'll see is glassy fog.

Should some 'truth' come out amongst it, it'll only either be pure coincidence, or further devious manipulation - eg trying to suddenly pretend they are 'reasonable' folk. There is nothing 'genuine' going on behind their eyes. Don't forget this.

Mantra mantra mantra. "Don't be daft - this is not your land, and never was." "You must be insane to think you can steal someone's land by putting a plant on it." (That's a beaut - it'll make them shake with anger - because it's true). Don't get suckered down their devious thought processes - 'Huh! If it's your land, why did you let us put plants on it?!' "Well, it's my land - I can do what I want  - sticksouttongue..."

Know your enemy, remain totally calm, stand your ground, and - as soon as they literally cross the line - call the police.

Tyler_Durden_UK

Plants have been repotted

Slinky

If they're not living there at the moment, it would be the reasonably neighbourly thing to do, to also keep them watered so they don't die.

Tyler_Durden_UK

Slinky said:

If they're not living there at the moment, it would be the reasonably neighbourly thing to do, to also keep them watered so they don't die.

Yeah was going to do so

Jeepers_Creepers

Nice, Tyler.

That is the decent thing to do, and that's why you did it.

They, of course, will want to perceive it as a sign of weakness or concern about litigation, because that's how their minds work - so, should they say anything about it, just smile and say summat like "I'm sure you'll want to plant them on your own land..."

If they make any suggestion of retaliation or that they will replant them on that patch, you need to raise your voice a notch and state very clearly (so it is unambiguous - and will be recorded on your Ring or by a witness), "You do NOT have permission to come on to my land - I trust that is PERFECTLY clear. And that INCLUDES that patch where I removed your plants."

There needs to be NO doubt, no grey areas, in your expectations. Keep reminding yourself - they are devious. Anything that is not 100% clear, they will try to undermine.