Car Parking charges and false information from Ipserv Ltd

Le_Kirk

You might want to rewrite your first paragraph as it is confusing and does not state clearly what you mean.

KeithP

Cardriver45 said:

KeithP said:

But the point I was making is that local authorities are banned from using ANPR because it is inherently unreliable.

Really?
I guess that get around that one by operating as a private company. Sneaky

Sneaky is certainly one word for it.

'Illegal' and 'unlawful' are two other possibilities.

ihatetrump

They are 100% owned by the Borough Council who have underwritten their losses of £804K to 31st March 2020; suspect it will be more than a £Million by now.

The words 'State Aid' come to mind here. Complex and what a minefield!

Castle

KeithP said:

Cardriver45 said:

KeithP said:

But the point I was making is that local authorities are banned from using ANPR because it is inherently unreliable.

Really?
I guess that get around that one by operating as a private company. Sneaky

Sneaky is certainly one word for it.

'Illegal' and 'unlawful' are two other possibilities.

Strangely according to the KADOE Enquiries lists; IPSERV didn't make their first enquiry until October 2020 despite being in business since February 2017. Maybe they were getting their DVLA information through the Borough Council?

ihatetrump

hey are 100% owned by the Borough Council who have underwritten their losses of £804K to 31st March 2020; suspect it will be more than a £Million by now.

More than half of the accumulated losses are to cover the deficit on the defined benefit pension scheme  (£412,000) !!!! Whoa.


The words 'State Aid' come to mind here. Complex and what a minefield! - Not a level playfield for sure when their employees get a defined benefit pension scheme - can't imagine there are any other PPC parking attendants in the country that get that!

Cardriver45

ihatetrump said:

hey are 100% owned by the Borough Council who have underwritten their losses of £804K to 31st March 2020; suspect it will be more than a £Million by now.

More than half of the accumulated losses are to cover the deficit on the defined benefit pension scheme  (£412,000) !!!! Whoa.


The words 'State Aid' come to mind here. Complex and what a minefield! - Not a level playfield for sure when their employees get a defined benefit pension scheme - can't imagine there are any other PPC parking attendants in the country that get that!

So does that mean that the directors are going to receive a pension for being on the council board and with Ipserv?
Cushy

Cardriver45

ihatetrump said:

they clearly haven't got a clue!

Sounds like most councils TBH

ihatetrump

So does that mean that the directors are going to receive a pension for being on the council board and with Ipserv?

The accounts don't show any Directors as being remunerated  - so the answer is no. 

But - the average salary in 2019 of the 10.5 employees was a staggering £42,782 each and in 2020, this dropped to £22,800 for each of the 63 employees - bearing in mind this will cover all the parking attendants. Add the defined benefit pensions on top and everyone seems to have quite a cushy number..

Cardriver45

On the BPA guidelines it says this (in the picture). As can be seen on the letter sent by Ipserv posted above, all they have put on the letter is their logo but there is no address, part of the UK or company registered number. Is it worth mentioning that when I email the BPA?

Also, are they supposed to sign the letter?  

Coupon-mad

That's not something for the BPA. 

But the fact that IPSERV are the commercial arm of a Local Authority should lead to a secondary question to the DVLA - why are IPSERV citing the POFA (private land enforcement only) and why are they using ANPR at some sites, given they are a public body and the Deregulation Act 2015 banned such authorities for using ANPR?  And why are the using the word 'penalty charge' in places?