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Car Parking charges and false information from Ipserv Ltd

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,182 Forumite
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    Protection of Freedoms Act 2000 
    No such law!


    I would end it: 

    f you do not provide this information within 14 days then I shall be reporting this matter to the Information Commissioner’s office as well as adding it to my complaint to the Local Government Ombudsman.


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  • Cardriver45
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    edited 10 October 2021 at 2:11PM
    Protection of Freedoms Act 2000 
    No such law!


    I would end it: 

    f you do not provide this information within 14 days then I shall be reporting this matter to the Information Commissioner’s office as well as adding it to my complaint to the Local Government Ombudsman.


    Thanks. I don't know why I put that, I meant freedom of information act 2000. I'm getting mixed up with POFA.
  • 1505grandad
    1505grandad Posts: 3,798 Forumite
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    "Protection of Freedoms Act"  -  I think you mean Freedom Of Information Act
  • Cardriver45
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    edited 23 October 2021 at 1:14PM
    Here is the next letter from Trace. I'm going to take this to the local press as well because I think the public deserves to know about the dubious practices by a Borough Council owned company and their agent. Will that affect my LBC against Ipserv if I do it now and should I wait until after that, please?



  • Cardriver45
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    edited 23 October 2021 at 4:45PM
    Here is my draft email for the local press

    Dear Sir/Madam

    I am contacting you about the dubious practices of Ipswich Borough council-owned parking company Ipserv Limited. Ipserv are a private company whose debts and pensions are fully underwritten by the council. Several of Ipserv's directors are also board members of the Borough council including the chief executive.

    You can see the full story and thread by going to this Money Saving Expert forum Link here

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6283452/car-parking-charges-and-false-information-from-ipserv-ltd/p1

    I first received contact from Ipserv after receiving as keeper 2 Notice to Keeper letters.

    They provided incorrect information on dates of the parking contraventions after I appealed, which made the Notice to Keepers sent to me appear as if they met the time limit for NTKs to be sent to the keeper as stipulated by the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, when one clearly did not.

    Ipserv canceled one charge but refused to cancel the other.

    They have passed the debt onto Trace Debt Recovery Limited. This company falsely claims not only in the letters sent to me but many others too that if I am taken to court I will receive a CCJ. This is untrue as I would only receive a CCJ in the event that the judge ruled in the claimant's favor and the defendant refused to pay within 30 days.

    Trace Debt also threaten to instruct solicitors which as they are not the creditors, they are not entitled to do. They send a Trace Legal department headed letter even though no such department exists signed by litigation manager with no name.

    This is clearly an illegal attempt to intimidate motorists in an attempt to frighten them into paying.

    Trace have added an illegal £60 charge even though they openly advertise that they operate at a no fee cost to the parking company.

    I believe that the public deserves to know, at a time when parking companies are facing government scrutiny, about these shameful practices by a Borough Council company and their agents designed to intimidate potentially vulnerable members of the public and that taxpayer money is being used to underwrite the debts of a private parking company.

    I have attached the reply letter I will be sending to Trace Debt Recovery for your information.

    Yours Faithfully

  • KeithP
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    edited 24 October 2021 at 2:32PM
    Several of Ipserv's directors are also board members of the Borough council including the chief executive.
    I'm not suggesting that it becomes part of your letter, but it might be interesting to note that of the five Directors of Ipserv Ltd...
    three are officers of Ipswich Borough Council, being...
    The Chief Executive and Chief Operating Officer,
    The Head of Culture and the Environment, and
    The Human Resources Operations Manager.

    The other two directors of Ipserv Ltd are both Labour Councillors.
  • pustit
    pustit Posts: 267 Forumite
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    4th para.  They have passed the "alleged" debt.  might be better
  • Le_Kirk
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    Is the £60 illegal or might it just be unlawful?  Certainly it is morally reprehensible but I am not sure you will find anything that states it is illegal.
  • Cardriver45
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    edited 24 October 2021 at 12:32PM
    Le_Kirk said:
    Is the £60 illegal or might it just be unlawful?  Certainly it is morally reprehensible but I am not sure you will find anything that states it is illegal.
    Thanks. I never knew there was a difference between unlawful and illegal.

    Just goes to show how careful I have to be when it comes to legal jargon.
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