Pregnant dog

sheramber

You need to list your costs-vet fees, feeding , microchipping etc.

I would expect any payment you received for the pups would come off your costs.  

As an aside my vet once delivered pups where the mother was a deerhound and the dad was dachshund. He wondered of the daxie carried a stool around with him.





 

Undervalued

redwon21 said:

Undervalued said:

redwon21 said:

I thought I would give an update.
Well she had 8 healthy pups .
it has been a very stressful couple of months but managed to find find good homes for them.
The kennel has now finally admitted that she got pregnant while in their care .
We are now going to look for some sort of compensation from them for all the trouble and stress  they have put us through.
Is the county court our best option?

You are unlikely to get any significant compensation for "trouble and stress". Quantifiable financial losses and expenses yes (although even then you would be expected to mitigate them as far as is reasonably possible).

Have you sought proper legal advice?

Will the puppies have a sale value? If so, assuming that comes to more than the cost of feeding them and any vet bills what are your losses?

What lawful cheaper options were open to you (however unpalatable they may be)? 

Remember, legally a dog is property. Sentimental issues because they are cute and cuddly doesn't affect that.

We have not looked at legal advice yet as we only got the email from the kennel today.
The puppies are all sold and going to their new homes this week. We had to cancel our holiday and have vets bills , food  DNA test and equipment for the pups to pay. Plus a lot of stress ! 
So what you are saying is just because we have sold them the kennel owes us nothing ?

No, I am not saying that at all!

In any legal dispute you have a duty to reasonably mitigate your losses. Just because somebody else is at fault doesn't mean you can run them up an unnecessarily big bill.

Assuming they either fully admit fault (or are found to be at fault) then you could certainly claim for any necessary vet treatment for your dog. I think you said earlier that it was too late to terminate the pregnancy? So any necessary vet treatment needed to safely deliver the puppies would I imagine be reasonable. I am no expert but if there is an age before which it would be harmful for the mother to be separated then the puppies need to be cared for up to that point.

Then it gets more difficult.......

You chose to raise the puppies to an age at which they could be sold. I have no idea what they sold for but lets say £300 each??

Did your vet and feeding costs come to more than £2400? If they did then you might have a claim for the excess.

If however your bills were only £1500 in total then you have already made a "profit" from your efforts of £900.

I have no idea of the real figures but you see the principle?

Monsternextdoor

redwon21 said:

Monsternextdoor said:

I think you are best to approach to settle out of court if I am honest. 

Did you find out what she mated with ? I have seen a Rottweiler lay down to mate with a male Jack russell  before now, When they are ready they will do what is ness to get rid of the urge.

It was a Staffordshire terrier. 

StaffyXLab are a lovely mix of dog, The pups will have been lovely looking.

MalMonroe

I'm really surprised at this because most professional kennels refuse to board unspayed b****es. I'm also surprised that your pet wasn't spayed.

Those two surprises apart, there's yet another one in that I'd be surprised if you didn't have to sign any Terms and Conditions of Boarding - what did they say?

I doubt there'd be much to be gained by taking the kennel people to court - for a start they've denied that it's their fault - who is going to prove that it is? Or how? And of course you'd have to pay to bring any action.

redwon21

We did sign the terms and conditions . The only mention is loss or allowing vets to be called out . 
We did ask if they took in neutered females and assured us they did and if in season kept apart. The now have said they do not accept any unutered female dogs which is a bit late for us .
They have denied it from the beginning and more or less blamed us for not keeping her away from dogs . They knew we were having a DNA test done and still denied it . We are so angry with them .
We did not have her neutered as we might of bred from her with another pedigree lab but not now once is enough

Monsternextdoor

Are you more upset that the dog she bred with was not a pedigree lab or the fact that the kennels made a huge !!!!!! up ? 

elsien

MalMonroe said:

I'm really surprised at this because most professional kennels refuse to board unspayed b****es. I'm also surprised that your pet wasn't spayed.

Those two surprises apart, there's yet another one in that I'd be surprised if you didn't have to sign any Terms and Conditions of Boarding - what did they say?

I doubt there'd be much to be gained by taking the kennel people to court - for a start they've denied that it's their fault - who is going to prove that it is? Or how? And of course you'd have to pay to bring any action.

If you read the thread properly you will see that the kennels have now accepted responsibility. 

redwon21

elsien said:

MalMonroe said:

I'm really surprised at this because most professional kennels refuse to board unspayed b****es. I'm also surprised that your pet wasn't spayed.

Those two surprises apart, there's yet another one in that I'd be surprised if you didn't have to sign any Terms and Conditions of Boarding - what did they say?

I doubt there'd be much to be gained by taking the kennel people to court - for a start they've denied that it's their fault - who is going to prove that it is? Or how? And of course you'd have to pay to bring any action.

If you read the thread properly you will see that the kennels have now accepted responsibility. 

Exactly this they have admitted she became pregnant when she was in her care .

sheramber

elsien said:

MalMonroe said:

I'm really surprised at this because most professional kennels refuse to board unspayed b****es. I'm also surprised that your pet wasn't spayed.

Those two surprises apart, there's yet another one in that I'd be surprised if you didn't have to sign any Terms and Conditions of Boarding - what did they say?

I doubt there'd be much to be gained by taking the kennel people to court - for a start they've denied that it's their fault - who is going to prove that it is? Or how? And of course you'd have to pay to bring any action.

If you read the thread properly you will see that the kennels have now accepted responsibility. 

read the poster's signature.  He just wants to give his opinion and  ------- off

redwon21

Monsternextdoor said:

Are you more upset that the dog she bred with was not a pedigree lab or the fact that the kennels made a huge !!!!!! up ? 

I am angry that the kennel did not look after her properly. My wife and I do have an aversion to staffies having had a bad experience with one attacking our last Labrador. So after the DNA results we were very unhappy.
I know the staffie lovers will say that they are lovable and faithful it's just we have this this thing about them .
Also we would like to have made our own choice as to whether we would bred from her rather than being forced into it.