Next door neighbour has built a monstrosity

Jeepers_Creepers

Davesnave said:

Perhaps it might help to think what might have gone there instead. A trampoline full of Year 6s would be good; or behind those trees might be a great place to build a rat-attracting compost bin or two. Me, I'd have my chickens there. They get up at about 6am at present and they get clucked-off if I'm late letting them out. Terrible din they make, but there's no law in the land can touch them.

My chicken house isn't quite as posh as that edifice, nor are the CDs I hang from trees to flash in the sunshine and put the predators off. And speaking of CD's, I could probably get a polytunnel in there too where I might pot-on and p Rick-out to some cool sounds.....I wonder if the OP likes Japanese heavy metal?

Yes, lots of potential in that plot all right. Have a nice day.

Where do you live, Dave?

Just making sure I avoid that area...

:-)

Davesnave

Jeepers_Creepers said:

Davesnave said:

Perhaps it might help to think what might have gone there instead. A trampoline full of Year 6s would be good; or behind those trees might be a great place to build a rat-attracting compost bin or two. Me, I'd have my chickens there. They get up at about 6am at present and they get clucked-off if I'm late letting them out. Terrible din they make, but there's no law in the land can touch them.

My chicken house isn't quite as posh as that edifice, nor are the CDs I hang from trees to flash in the sunshine and put the predators off. And speaking of CD's, I could probably get a polytunnel in there too where I might pot-on and p Rick-out to some cool sounds.....I wonder if the OP likes Japanese heavy metal?

Yes, lots of potential in that plot all right. Have a nice day.

Where do you live, Dave?

Just making sure I avoid that area...

:-)

Rural, very rural, and I own my back garden views for over 200m. I keep on good terms with the guy across the road at the front though. If he wanted to, he could build a 100' barn there without even asking for planning permission. All he'd need to do is give 2 weeks notice of his needs and intentions.

However I've known piles of haylage bales blot out a view in the matter of an afternoon...

Pretty, eh?

Not so much!

Doozergirl

Still a lot nicer than mine! 

GDB2222

We used to live in a house backing onto fields. Unfortunately, the farmer used to grow hayfever there.

DB1904

Doozergirl said:

grumbler said:

Clive_Woody said:

Given the 100s (1000s?) of building projects that Doozergirl has worked on I would tend to suspect she knows the regulations reasonably well.

Don't be that sure.

The law is very clear:

"Outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

...

Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse."

I can only guess that permission is given only if the neighbour on the other side of the boundary doesn't object.

You're right, because it's an outbuilding.  If it was an extension then it would be compliant.  

I was being flippant.  

The sour grapes has started.  The upshot will be that it either moves from the boundary slightly, or it is granted retrospective planning permission because it's causing no harm.  

They'd also now have to put flame retardant paint on the side elevations to conform to building regs.  

Pointless, unless you count scoring points. 

Out of interest, would flame retardant paint mean you could have a wooden structure within one metre of a boundary?

Doozergirl

DB1904 said:

Doozergirl said:

grumbler said:

Clive_Woody said:

Given the 100s (1000s?) of building projects that Doozergirl has worked on I would tend to suspect she knows the regulations reasonably well.

Don't be that sure.

The law is very clear:

"Outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

...

Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse."

I can only guess that permission is given only if the neighbour on the other side of the boundary doesn't object.

You're right, because it's an outbuilding.  If it was an extension then it would be compliant.  

I was being flippant.  

The sour grapes has started.  The upshot will be that it either moves from the boundary slightly, or it is granted retrospective planning permission because it's causing no harm.  

They'd also now have to put flame retardant paint on the side elevations to conform to building regs.  

Pointless, unless you count scoring points. 

Out of interest, would flame retardant paint mean you could have a wooden structure within one metre of a boundary?

Planning and Building Control
are different.  The fire retardant is for building control, it doesn't influence planning. 

DB1904

Doozergirl said:

DB1904 said:

Doozergirl said:

grumbler said:

Clive_Woody said:

Given the 100s (1000s?) of building projects that Doozergirl has worked on I would tend to suspect she knows the regulations reasonably well.

Don't be that sure.

The law is very clear:

"Outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

...

Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse."

I can only guess that permission is given only if the neighbour on the other side of the boundary doesn't object.

You're right, because it's an outbuilding.  If it was an extension then it would be compliant.  

I was being flippant.  

The sour grapes has started.  The upshot will be that it either moves from the boundary slightly, or it is granted retrospective planning permission because it's causing no harm.  

They'd also now have to put flame retardant paint on the side elevations to conform to building regs.  

Pointless, unless you count scoring points. 

Out of interest, would flame retardant paint mean you could have a wooden structure within one metre of a boundary?

Planning and Building Control
are different.  The fire retardant is for building control, it doesn't influence planning. 

Yeah I know, I'm asking about building control, would the paint satisfy non combustible material if it's within a metre?

Davesnave

Doozergirl said:

Still a lot nicer than mine! 

Being entirely serious for a moment, there's a world of difference between what someone in an urban environment can expect as a view compared with someone living deep in the countryside. When I was in the city I had at least 15 properties surrounding mine, so the view was restricted in every direction. View didn't feature in the decision to buy that property or the one before it.

I don't know where the OP lives, but it's likely an extensive rear garden view wasn't part of what they bought into, judging by the line of trees.

Doozergirl

DB1904 said:

Doozergirl said:

DB1904 said:

Doozergirl said:

grumbler said:

Clive_Woody said:

Given the 100s (1000s?) of building projects that Doozergirl has worked on I would tend to suspect she knows the regulations reasonably well.

Don't be that sure.

The law is very clear:

"Outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

...

Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse."

I can only guess that permission is given only if the neighbour on the other side of the boundary doesn't object.

You're right, because it's an outbuilding.  If it was an extension then it would be compliant.  

I was being flippant.  

The sour grapes has started.  The upshot will be that it either moves from the boundary slightly, or it is granted retrospective planning permission because it's causing no harm.  

They'd also now have to put flame retardant paint on the side elevations to conform to building regs.  

Pointless, unless you count scoring points. 

Out of interest, would flame retardant paint mean you could have a wooden structure within one metre of a boundary?

Planning and Building Control
are different.  The fire retardant is for building control, it doesn't influence planning. 

Yeah I know, I'm asking about building control, would the paint satisfy non combustible material if it's within a metre?

Yes.  It certainly has done for us in the past. 

Jeepers_Creepers

Davesnave said:

Jeepers_Creepers said:

Davesnave said:

Perhaps it might help to think what might have gone there instead. A trampoline full of Year 6s would be good; or behind those trees might be a great place to build a rat-attracting compost bin or two. Me, I'd have my chickens there. They get up at about 6am at present and they get clucked-off if I'm late letting them out. Terrible din they make, but there's no law in the land can touch them.

My chicken house isn't quite as posh as that edifice, nor are the CDs I hang from trees to flash in the sunshine and put the predators off. And speaking of CD's, I could probably get a polytunnel in there too where I might pot-on and p Rick-out to some cool sounds.....I wonder if the OP likes Japanese heavy metal?

Yes, lots of potential in that plot all right. Have a nice day.

Where do you live, Dave?

Just making sure I avoid that area...

:-)

Rural, very rural, and I own my back garden views for over 200m. I keep on good terms with the guy across the road at the front though. If he wanted to, he could build a 100' barn there without even asking for planning permission. All he'd need to do is give 2 weeks notice of his needs and intentions.

However I've known piles of haylage bales blot out a view in the matter of an afternoon...

Pretty, eh?

Not so much!

Yes, stunning indeed. Must be tough having to have bino's strapped permanently to your head, tho'.

That's my ideal view you have there, Dave. Mostly. :-)