Next door neighbour has built a monstrosity

grumbler

Clive_Woody said:

Given the 100s (1000s?) of building projects that Doozergirl has worked on I would tend to suspect she knows the regulations reasonably well.

Don't be that sure.

The law is very clear:

"Outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

...

Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse."

I can only guess that permission is given only if the neighbour on the other side of the boundary doesn't object.

grumbler

Doozergirl said:

The companies that design these know what the rules are on Permitted Development. 

They do. The structure can be placed more than 2m away from the boundary

Live and let live.  It isn't a monstrosity, it's quite pretty.  If you report it, it will just smell like sour grapes. 

This bit I agree with.

Doozergirl

isey235 said:

Doozergirl said:

That looks fairly compliant to me.  Less at the eaves than at ridge height, which isn't 5 metres tall.  

Your view is mainly blocked by the massive conifers.  

Live and let live.  It isn't a monstrosity.  

Doozergirl said:

That looks fairly compliant to me.  Less at the eaves than at ridge height, which isn't 5 metres tall.  

Your view is mainly blocked by the massive conifers.  

Live and let live.  It isn't a monstrosity.  

You wouldn't be saying that if you were sat in my garden

and it isn't compliant.

They built a house where that building is compared to my garden! 

Doozergirl

grumbler said:

Clive_Woody said:

Given the 100s (1000s?) of building projects that Doozergirl has worked on I would tend to suspect she knows the regulations reasonably well.

Don't be that sure.

The law is very clear:

"Outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

...

Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse."

I can only guess that permission is given only if the neighbour on the other side of the boundary doesn't object.

You're right, because it's an outbuilding.  If it was an extension then it would be compliant.  

I was being flippant.  

The sour grapes has started.  The upshot will be that it either moves from the boundary slightly, or it is granted retrospective planning permission because it's causing no harm.  

They'd also now have to put flame retardant paint on the side elevations to conform to building regs.  

Pointless, unless you count scoring points. 

Gavin83

I expect regardless of what happens the OP won't be happy. Best case scenario it'll get moved a couple of meters further over or they'll chop a bit off the top. Worst case it'll get granted retrospective planning permission. I expect the later is more likely. In either situation it's likely to cause problems in neighbourly relations and will mean they'll have to declare it when they come to sell.

The OP almost certainly wants it taken down and that's extremely unlikely to happen.

Anyway, what is the actual height of this shed? It certainly looks fairly tall from the picture but the OP themselves states it's just over 2.5m and they're likely to exaggerate plus I can't see a shed builder creating it at just over 2.5m when they'll be aware of the planning permission rules. I suspect it's just under and the pictures are misleading but we'd need the OP to confirm.

Davesnave

Perhaps it might help to think what might have gone there instead. A trampoline full of Year 6s would be good; or behind those trees might be a great place to build a rat-attracting compost bin or two. Me, I'd have my chickens there. They get up at about 6am at present and they get clucked-off if I'm late letting them out. Terrible din they make, but there's no law in the land can touch them.

My chicken house isn't quite as posh as that edifice, nor are the CDs I hang from trees to flash in the sunshine and put the predators off. And speaking of CD's, I could probably get a polytunnel in there too where I might pot-on and p Rick-out to some cool sounds.....I wonder if the OP likes Japanese heavy metal?

Yes, lots of potential in that plot all right. Have a nice day.

Ectophile

Doozergirl said:

grumbler said:

Clive_Woody said:

Given the 100s (1000s?) of building projects that Doozergirl has worked on I would tend to suspect she knows the regulations reasonably well.

Don't be that sure.

The law is very clear:

"Outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

...

Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse."

I can only guess that permission is given only if the neighbour on the other side of the boundary doesn't object.

You're right, because it's an outbuilding.  If it was an extension then it would be compliant.  

I was being flippant.  

The sour grapes has started.  The upshot will be that it either moves from the boundary slightly, or it is granted retrospective planning permission because it's causing no harm.  

They'd also now have to put flame retardant paint on the side elevations to conform to building regs.  

Pointless, unless you count scoring points. 

Just based on the photo, they would struggle to get that thing two metres from any boundary, unless they rebuilt it inside the house.

SameOldRoundabout

I don’t find that too ugly to be honest, compared to some of the DIY horrors we see here. I do however think that you have to accept that you have no right to a view across the neighbours garden at all. I don’t really understand the point of the post if you’re already sure it’s broken some kind of planning law, but i’d be interested to know the councils response. 

Rosa_Damascena

Ectophile said:

Doozergirl said:

grumbler said:

Clive_Woody said:

Given the 100s (1000s?) of building projects that Doozergirl has worked on I would tend to suspect she knows the regulations reasonably well.

Don't be that sure.

The law is very clear:

"Outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

...

Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse."

I can only guess that permission is given only if the neighbour on the other side of the boundary doesn't object.

You're right, because it's an outbuilding.  If it was an extension then it would be compliant.  

I was being flippant.  

The sour grapes has started.  The upshot will be that it either moves from the boundary slightly, or it is granted retrospective planning permission because it's causing no harm.  

They'd also now have to put flame retardant paint on the side elevations to conform to building regs.  

Pointless, unless you count scoring points. 

Just based on the photo, they would struggle to get that thing two metres from any boundary, unless they rebuilt it inside the house.

Exactly. If you look at the neighbour's wall you can see the gardens are actually very small so the shed is disproportionately big. But that's the owner's problem, not the OP's.

kev1744

im a bit lost at the op's complaint....the view is apparently across the neighbours garden..which from the photos the op would have to stand in her raised beds to look over the fences. or if the op means the view is across the neighbours garden when looking out the window then the building wouldn't obstruct this anyway.
perhaps if the op hates the look of the building that much they could put some trellis on top of the fence?
either way i think this is a situation that the op will regret.
the building is a good looking structure and if it was my neighbour i would consider myself lucky it wasnt a breeze block outhouse with a tin roof