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Car hit me from behind. He said it was my fault

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  • BOWFER said:
    zagubov said:

     so perhaps dashcams need to be more of a standard.
    I agree, but in my experience they're a pain in the backside.
    I'm not willing to rip my car apart for wiring, so I have wires hanging down.
    Then constant SD card errors, SD cards are so 1990s and I can't believe they still need them.
    Manufacturers need to start offering dashcams as part of the car equipment so they're discreet, like built into the rear view mirror and make them cloud compatible so the footage isn't stored on old tech SD cards.
    It's baffling that they've not caught onto this revenue stream yet.
    What about SSD's? Which are SD drives just encased.

    As per above in many countries DashCams are illegal. Who is going to pay for the cost to upload to the cloud? As well as what will they be stored on before being uploaded, in area's with poor or no signal?
    Which big market countries are dashcams illegal in? Not UK, USA, Canada, China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Russia, Italy, Spain, Holland etc are fine. In certain countries like France, Germany & Belgium they are again fine for private use you can't upload them to youtube (officially) but they certainly aren't banned. 
    I know Austria, Luxembourg and Portugal ban them but not really big markets are they?
  • Mickey666
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    BOWFER said:
    neilmcl said:

    So you spend loads on a 128GB capacity iPhone, or pay a pittance to expand the storage to a similar level on an equivalent Android phone. You do sound like the typical blinkered Apple fanboy.
    Ah..."apple fanboy"
    The lazy and plaintive cry of the one who's bought the inferior product.
    Many top end Android phones are better than iPhones. Apple fanbois talk about superior product, then boast about features which were brought in on some Android phones years before. The option to expand memory vs paying more for a phone which will run out being "superior" is just laughable

    Iphone 12 - 64gb is £799. 128gb is £849, 256gb is £949
    You can get a 64gb microSD card for ~£8 or a 128gb for ~£13. Do feel free to explain how it is superior to pay £100 for a £13 product? 
    Not a chance of winning this one with plain facts and common sense.
    Apple fans KNOW they have the superior product because they've paid many times more for basically the same functionality so it MUST be better LOL. 
    It's akin to splashing out on a personalised number plate or a designer handbag . . . "look at me, I have money to waste but insist on doing it as conspicuously as possible . . . ".  No class.
  • BOWFER
    BOWFER Posts: 1,516 Forumite
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     They're easy to fit and forget until you need it 
    Precisely the opposite of my experience with 2 x Nextbase cameras.
    They were fine for a couple of months, then both started displaying errors with the SD cards, saying they needed reformatting and it just would not fix - and I was damned if I was buying more SD cards.
    I've managed 36 years of riding and driving without the need for a camera, so I've decided I'll take my chances for the next XX years as well.
    And while I fit a go-pro to track motorbikes, I don't fit any kind of camera to my road bikes - the footage would be too incriminating.
  • BOWFER
    BOWFER Posts: 1,516 Forumite
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    edited 4 June 2021 at 5:48PM
    Mickey666 said:
    BOWFER said:
    neilmcl said:

    So you spend loads on a 128GB capacity iPhone, or pay a pittance to expand the storage to a similar level on an equivalent Android phone. You do sound like the typical blinkered Apple fanboy.
    Ah..."apple fanboy"
    The lazy and plaintive cry of the one who's bought the inferior product.
    Many top end Android phones are better than iPhones. Apple fanbois talk about superior product, then boast about features which were brought in on some Android phones years before. The option to expand memory vs paying more for a phone which will run out being "superior" is just laughable

    Iphone 12 - 64gb is £799. 128gb is £849, 256gb is £949
    You can get a 64gb microSD card for ~£8 or a 128gb for ~£13. Do feel free to explain how it is superior to pay £100 for a £13 product? 
    Not a chance of winning this one with plain facts and common sense.
    Apple fans KNOW they have the superior product because they've paid many times more for basically the same functionality so it MUST be better LOL. 
    It's akin to splashing out on a personalised number plate or a designer handbag . . . "look at me, I have money to waste but insist on doing it as conspicuously as possible . . . ".  No class.
    Oh god, the old "why buy an £5000 Omega when you can have a £10 Timex" argument.
    Blablabla, whateverrrrrrrrr.....
  • Grumpy_chap
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    BOWFER said:
    why buy an £5000 Omega 
    Why indeed?
    You could have a nice Cartier for that money - far more class.
  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 20,477 Forumite
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    BOWFER said:
    zagubov said:

     so perhaps dashcams need to be more of a standard.
    I agree, but in my experience they're a pain in the backside.
    I'm not willing to rip my car apart for wiring, so I have wires hanging down.
    Then constant SD card errors, SD cards are so 1990s and I can't believe they still need them.
    Manufacturers need to start offering dashcams as part of the car equipment so they're discreet, like built into the rear view mirror and make them cloud compatible so the footage isn't stored on old tech SD cards.
    It's baffling that they've not caught onto this revenue stream yet.
    What about SSD's? Which are SD drives just encased.

    As per above in many countries DashCams are illegal. Who is going to pay for the cost to upload to the cloud? As well as what will they be stored on before being uploaded, in area's with poor or no signal?
    Which big market countries are dashcams illegal in? Not UK, USA, Canada, China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Russia, Italy, Spain, Holland etc are fine. In certain countries like France, Germany & Belgium they are again fine for private use you can't upload them to youtube (officially) but they certainly aren't banned. 
    I know Austria, Luxembourg and Portugal ban them but not really big markets are they?
    Did I mention big markets?...
    Also USA in many states you can not mount them on the windscreen. 
    Life in the slow lane
  • Mickey666
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    BOWFER said:
    zagubov said:

     so perhaps dashcams need to be more of a standard.
    I agree, but in my experience they're a pain in the backside.
    I'm not willing to rip my car apart for wiring, so I have wires hanging down.
    Then constant SD card errors, SD cards are so 1990s and I can't believe they still need them.
    Manufacturers need to start offering dashcams as part of the car equipment so they're discreet, like built into the rear view mirror and make them cloud compatible so the footage isn't stored on old tech SD cards.
    It's baffling that they've not caught onto this revenue stream yet.
    What about SSD's? Which are SD drives just encased.

    As per above in many countries DashCams are illegal. Who is going to pay for the cost to upload to the cloud? As well as what will they be stored on before being uploaded, in area's with poor or no signal?
    Which big market countries are dashcams illegal in? Not UK, USA, Canada, China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Russia, Italy, Spain, Holland etc are fine. In certain countries like France, Germany & Belgium they are again fine for private use you can't upload them to youtube (officially) but they certainly aren't banned. 
    I know Austria, Luxembourg and Portugal ban them but not really big markets are they?
    Why do people make up such stupid rules, especially when they are unenforceable?  And what is the intention or reasoning behind banning them anyway?

    Besides, what makes a 'dashcam' any different to a passenger recording a video on their mobile phone - or would that also be illegal?  
  • Marvel1
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    edited 5 June 2021 at 5:36PM
    neilmcl said:
    AdrianC said:
    neilmcl said:
    Even though you contributed to the accident by your own poor observation and late braking
    Eh?

    Green - prepare to stop.
    Amber - stop, unless it's not safe to do so.

    The OP did exactly what they should have done - stopped when the lights went from green to amber.

    It's not their fault the driver behind wasn't looking where they were going.
    The OP had to slam the anchors on as the lights changed which suggests they weren't prepared to stop nor was it safe to do so. They may have not been fully at fault but it doesn't take away from the fact that it was pretty poor driving.
    You forgot to finish the post:

    Also the driver behind should be more alert and kept a safe distance.
  • prowla
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    It is always the duty of the car behind to keep a safe distance; the fact that they ran into the back of the OP is clear evidence that they didn't.
    Their fault.
  • JustAnotherSaver
    JustAnotherSaver Posts: 6,709 Forumite
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    Jeez. I wondered why this thread was on 9 pages. Skipped from page 1 to 9 to have a see why and note that we're talking about watches.

    Awesome.

    From what the OP said on page 1 then by the letter of the law OP would be right and at the end of the day that's all that really matters.

    However, in normal day to day driving I am not desperate to stop at the slightest opportunity and slam on to do so, unless an emergency stop.
    Round here I can think of 1 set of lights where when yours hit red the next set of lights for merging traffic immediately hit green so I know there's zero chance with those. 
    For all other lights around my area there's a reasonable delay between yours hitting red and others turning green so if yours have just hit Amber and you're on the line then I would personally keep going. I would not desperately slam on and stop beyond the line.
    If I was a good distance from the lights then obviously I'd stop. 
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