CP plus parking fine I can't afford

Redx

grimmyth said:

Redx said:

A SAR to obtain the data from the PDT machine may produce the details , providing that the driver put the correct information into the machine , but that reply will probably take 30 days , so too late for this matter at the moment , but useful for POPLA later on , if it gets that far

But the best reaction is plan A , a complaint to the retail park management asao

Plan B is the appeal to UKPC , as keeper , citing no liability for the keeper due to POFA non compliance by UKPC , after doing plan A

Plan C is then an easy win at Popla for he keeper due to the failure of UKPC to comply with POFA

1) Ok so I email the retail park today, is there a template for contacting landowners?

2) Then I appeal the charge within 28 days.

3) If they reply with they won’t drop it then I refer it to popla?

 1) yes , asap , no there are no templates for complaints on here but you can check the successful complaints in announcements near the top of this forum

2) no , not within 28 days , within the next 14 days because you and they  have wasted the first 14 days of the 28 day total

3) correct

Fruitcake

grimmyth said:

Redx said:

A SAR to obtain the data from the PDT machine may produce the details , providing that the driver put the correct information into the machine , but that reply will probably take 30 days , so too late for this matter at the moment , but useful for POPLA later on , if it gets that far

But the best reaction is plan A , a complaint to the retail park management asao

Plan B is the appeal to UKPC , as keeper , citing no liability for the keeper due to POFA non compliance by UKPC , after doing plan A

Plan C is then an easy win at Popla for he keeper due to the failure of UKPC to comply with POFA

Ok so I email the retail park today, is there a template for contacting landowners?

Then I appeal the charge within 28 days. If they reply with they won’t drop it then I refer it to popla?

Complain to the retail park asap as already advised. There is a thread called Successful Complaints, so you could have a look at that. IF you find nothing suitable then you say you are the registered keeper of vehicle reg XXXXX. You have received a scamvoice from UKPC but since you were not the driver, and the scamvoice is incapable of holding you, the keeper liable, please cancel this charge from an unregulated parking scammer. 
Scamvoice notice number NNNNNNN

If no cancellation before the appeal deadline of 28 days is forthcoming then appeal as advised. If it isn't cancelled, then appeal to PoPLA as per the third post of the NEWBIES. The rejection will come with a PoPLA code that is valid for 32 days.

Put dates in your diary so you don't miss any deadlines, and get stuck into the NEWBIES.

Fruitcake

According to GSV, the charge for two hours parking was £1.50 in August 2020.

Redx

Fruitcake said:

According to GSV, the charge for two hours parking was £1.50 in August 2020.

Probably a VRM error , or not putting the VRM into the PDT machine , a receipt for the money should have been issued by the PDT machine

Fruitcake

The camera car went in and around the car park. The signs are a mixture of Crown Wharf and CP Plus. The Crown Wharf signs make no mention of scamvoices or that parking scammers operate.
There are swathes of land with no visible signage. You could park a fleet of cars there and not be within sight of a sign.

grimmyth

I'm tying to contact the site owners about my parking fine. I can't find any contact details for the Crown Wharf tho, just the shops.

I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction?

Umkomaas

grimmyth said:

I'm tying to contact the site owners about my parking fine. I can't find any contact details for the Crown Wharf tho, just the shops.

I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction?

I'm not sure how far you looked, but I put in just five words into Google 'Crown Wharf Walsall site agent' and within 0.52 seconds, I got this. 

https://completelyretail.co.uk/scheme/3452

The details you want are therein, agents and owners. 

grimmyth

Just sent this to the site agents and owners.

Hi

I've recently recieved a parking charge from your Crown Wharf site by a company CP Plus, and I'm contacting you to see if it can be squashed.

I wasn't the driver at the time, but the person who was has proof they were shopping at the wharf (receipt from River Island) but no proof of parking. There was multiple parking machines out of order and the one that they did use they paid cash and as this happened in April no proof was kept.

I'm asking if the charge can be ended as they were paying customers to one of your sites stores, and the penalty amount is excessive and not a true loss of earnings as the car park is always pretty empty and charges like this just add to people not visiting the wharf stores.

PCN: XXXXXXXXXX
My email is XXXXXXXXXX

Thanks

Redx

I hope you added a picture of the postal NTK PCN as well ?

grimmyth

Redx said:

I hope you added a picture of the postal NTK PCN as well ?

Wasn't an option as it was through a site where messages had to be constructed within a pop up window. I didn't have an email to directly message. If I get a reply I will definately add that tho.