CP plus parking fine I can't afford

grimmyth

Hi

I've been issued with a parking charge on the 14th of May (well that's when the letter arrived) from CP Plus. Apparently they have no evidence a ticket was paid for and I can't prove otherwise. The offence happened in April and cash would of been used.

I've looked into this slightly and I'm wondering if I can argue on these points in an appeal.

1. The offence happened on the 19/04/2021 they issued the letter on the 04/05/2021 but it didn't arrive until the 14/05/2021 which is past the 14 days they have under the freedoms of protection 2012.

2. I'm the keeper of the vehicle, but I wasn't driving. The driver was my mom who is insured but is not the keeper.

3. They say they don't have evidence I paid, but it's on them to prove my mom didn't. That car park is constantly having machines down and for all I know it's a technical fault.

With the letter appearing on the 14th, I've only got till the 18th to pay the reduced amount. Can't really afford it being on disability benefits, so just trying everything else first.

Cheers for any help guys.

Half_way

this is not a fine, and  the driver has committed no offence.
do not attempt to name, or id the driver, never use terms such as I/he/she/father/mother/sister/brother etc

D_P_Dance

It is not a fine, nor is it an offence, it is an invoice.  You owe nothing unless a judge says so.  Please read the newbies and complain to your MP.

grimmyth

Half_way said:

this is not a fine, and  the driver has committed no offence.
do not attempt to name, or id the driver, never use terms such as I/he/she/father/mother/sister/brother etc

Ok so just mention I was not the driver at the time?

Redx

Appeal using the blue text template from the newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum , in announcements , add as line that

The keeper was definitely not the driver at the time and C P Plus failed to comply with POFA so cancel the PCN

Do not infer who was driving

Fruitcake

Send the appeal template in blue text that you will find in the sticky thread for NEWBIES. Send it from The Keeper, unaltered except a one liner stating that you were not the driver and the NTK was given too late for keeper liability to apply so they should cancel now and save themselves money.

Have you complained to the landowner yet (without identifying the driver)? A landowner cancellation is always Plan A.

Get pics of the site and signage if it isn't cancelled.

grimmyth

Fruitcake said:

Send the appeal template in blue text that you will find in the sticky thread for NEWBIES. Send it from The Keeper, unaltered except a one liner stating that you were not the driver and the NTK was given too late for keeper liability to apply so they should cancel now and save themselves money.

Have you complained to the landowner yet (without identifying the driver)? A landowner cancellation is always Plan A.

Get pics of the site and signage if it isn't cancelled.

How do I complain to the land owner? Also I need to do the appeal today really as the reduced payment period ends tomorrow. 

D_P_Dance

You write him a letter or send him an email, read this

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2010/feb/18/how-to-complain-effectively-complaints-procedure 

Ignore the reduction, with our help this PCN will be cancelled either by the PPC or a judge.  Have you read the newbies yet.?    It would be wise ti do so before posting again.  

Redx

There are many ways to get the details of the landowner , Google , council , land registry , etc

That 14 day deadline is irrelevant

You have 28 days to appeal as keeper , use that time for a landowner complaint , appealing around day 26 if it's not cancelled , the parking company have 35 days to make a decision

Do this correctly and you won't be paying a penny

Fruitcake

Where did the alleged event occur? Which nation in the UK, was it a retail park, supermarket, residential, hospital? It may have cropped up here before.

You have 28 days to appeal. The NTK will give you the appeal deadline. If there was no NTD then there is no advantage in waiting. Just make sure you do not miss the appeal deadline.

grimmyth

Fruitcake said:

Where did the alleged event occur? Which nation in the UK, was it a retail park, supermarket, residential, hospital? It may have cropped up here before.

You have 28 days to appeal. The NTK will give you the appeal deadline. If there was no NTD then there is no advantage in waiting. Just make sure you do not miss the appeal deadline.

It was a retail park in England called the Crown Wharf in Walsall.