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Is this Discriminatory?

Ms_Chocaholic
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Hi all
I previously joined a free 12 week gym membership pre-Covid and now that gyms are open again I thought I would look at re-joining (I think you can only get the free 12 weeks once - I didn't get the free 12 weeks previously as I my induction and then everything closed for Covid).
Anyway, the criteria appears to have changed, this is what it says:
You need to be over 18
A resident of the area
Both of which I qualify for.
It then refers to BMI criteria:
A body mass index of 30+
OR
OR
A body mass index of 25 and from a black or minority ethnic group
OR
A body mass index of 25 with some comorbities
It therefore seems to me (though happy to be correct) that as I probably have a BMI of over 25 but I am white I do not qualify (I do not have any comorbidities and unlikely my bmi over 30).
Is this how you read it?
If so, is this discriminatory?
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You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time
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I would say yes, but discrimination only really works one way round.
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It's positive action, as I understand it. The Equality Act allows them to discriminate if it helps people with a protected characteristic (in this case, ethnicity) if those people are:
- at a disadvantage
- have particular needs
- are under-represented in an activity or type of work
In my book, that makes their criteria discriminatory, but lawful and sensible.1 -
Thank you for your informative reply. Just to provide further information, the 2011 Census for the area shows ethnic minorities as a percentage of the total population is 3.5%.
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You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time0 -
I agree it probably comes under the lawful exceptions.0
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Ms_Chocaholic said:Thank you for your informative reply. Just to provide further information, the 2011 Census for the area shows ethnic minorities as a percentage of the total population is 3.5%.0
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Ms_Chocaholic said:Thank you for your informative reply. Just to provide further information, the 2011 Census for the area shows ethnic minorities as a percentage of the total population is 3.5%.
Presumably you don't qualify under the comorbidity? Do you have equal issue that someone who's white 25 BMI but has type 2 diabetes gets free access but you don't despite being a chocoholic?2 -
BigDoug said:I would say yes, but discrimination only really works one way round.1
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They're not preventing you from joining the gym though are they.
They simply have a targeted offer, likely as part of a Local Authority initiative.
If that is negatively discriminatory, then so are all the pensioner offers, the women's swimming hours, etc etc.6 -
What's next, you having a problem with old people getting discounted fish and chips?
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Aylesbury_Duck said:It's positive action, as I understand it. The Equality Act allows them to discriminate if it helps people with a protected characteristic (in this case, ethnicity) if those people are:
- at a disadvantage
- have particular needs
- are under-represented in an activity or type of work
In my book, that makes their criteria discriminatory, but lawful and sensible.
Nor do I think "black or minority ethnic group" would hold up. Because that covers every other ethnicity apart from caucasian/white (at least within the UK). While some ethnicities may be more at risk with a BMI of 25+ than a white person with a BMI of 25+, not all of them are. Therefore exemption is not proportionate as required by s158 of the equality act (which determines when positive action can be used in circumstances outside of recruitment/employment).
But really, it would probably just lead to the gym withdrawing the offer rather than offering it to everyone.
If OP has a high BMI though, they may want to speak to their doctor. Not sure if it's just Scotland but I know a friend who was referred to a gym by their GP and got a cheaper gym price as a result. However, I also don't know if there is a criteria for your doctor doing this (ie if BMI has to be over a certain value or whether it would just be beneficial to their health because they need to lose weight), but it can't hurt to ask.
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