Parking News - JUDICIAL REVIEW - here we go again

beamerguy

Snakes_Belly said:

"The IPC's comments (p.35) raise fears about a potential end to free parking to the detriment of already embattled UK High Streets.''

Government also have green targets and there are moves now for town centres to be car free.  

The IPC are in denial ..... Google is NOT the IPC's best friend ?
The boys created a monster commonly known as a scam.  Do they really think Government has missed it ?  The government probably just pay lip service to the IPC with no intention of listening to them ..... the BPA is on route to join the IPC

Half_way

makes you wonder what  exactly used to happen before the DVLA opened the tap for greedy ppcs?

Nuddmann

Coupon-mad said:

Thanks to friend who found there is a free link on Twitter, here is the direct link to the April edition of Parking Review:

https://edition.pagesuite.com/html5/reader/production/default.aspx?pubname=Parking%20Review&pubid=5bcb21d2-0c12-4b90-b70c-f18e58232177

Lots of stuff about the Code, lots of toys being thrown out of the pram. 

Who are they trying to kid, that the majority of the 'public' who sent in cut & paste replies to the MHCLG consultation wanting a 40% discount (that the example 3 tiers didn't even use!) were not parking firm directors, their employees and their relatives and friends?  They must think the MHCLG Ministers were born yesterday. 

They also perpetuate the myth that a deterrent is all about an ever higher & disproportionate penalty that will bring 'rogue parkers' into line. 

Hmmm...

There are also a few other interesting articles in that Parking Review edition, as an aside:

- APCOA have taken over the contract for a lot of railway car parks (noticed in the South by a friend, who saw that SABA were no longer on a sign and APCOA were).

- Epping Forest is introducing car parking charges despite 75% of people not wanting them.  And the City of London is using a private firm who are issuing £100/£60 parking charges (not proper LA process, then).  I wonder who the PPC is at Epping Forest and whether their NTKs are mentioning the POFA 2012 despite this not being relevant land.

I live in the EFDC area. The parking is managed by North Essex parking Partners, which is a council run body. They use LA enforcement officers, not a PPC, unless something has changed very recently. When I appealed a parking ticket, it was via the council system. 

if it has changed and a PPC is involved, I'll get this forum out onto my town's business FB page and cause EFDC a headache. 

The most recent chat re parking enforcement in the area all points away from a PPC being involved. 

Snakes_Belly

The bill got cross party support and went through to become law.  I cannot see a judicial review go in their favour.  

Umkomaas

The most recent chat re parking enforcement in the area all points away from a PPC being involved. 

The article did mention that a parking operator is involved. Maybe not patrolling, but the council could be using the PPC's ANPR cameras (they can't use their own), with the PPC accessing motorist data from their DVLA electronic access - no one would notice that involvement. 

Coupon-mad

It not only mentioned a PPC but it talked about £100/£60.  That extortionate sum of money doesn't match any LA enforcement of penalties.

Thanks @Nuddmann for picking up on this aside.  I hoped to find someone local who was prepared to check out Epping Forest car parks and maybe even test the water with a NTK to see if the PPC is misleading people about the POFA, in which case a LA complaint can go in, followed by a LA Ombudsman complaint, citing the precedent of the Kent Parks decision about the same scam.

If they used to operate it properly with a Parking Places Order and have 'decided' to outsource it unlawfully and against the wishes of the majority of consultees, in clear breach of the policy of Government (and especially if the PPC is misleading people about their liability) then the LA have got it coming to them.

ParkingMad

Here are the results of the public consultation on charging for parking at Epping Forest-

https://democracy.cityoflondon.gov.uk/documents/s148506/SEF%2012-21%20Appendix%20B%20Summary%20of%20consultation%20responses.pdf

Snakes_Belly

Same sort of thing is happening on Cannock Chase although I don't think that there has been a public consulatation. 

The increase in visitors during the pandemic has caused problems with fires and litter. Many of these visitors are from outside the area who do not understand how easily a fire can spread especially when the weather has been dry. There has probably had to be an increased ranger presence. 

https://www.staffordshire-live.co.uk/news/cannock-chase-car-parking-changes-4910933
  

MothballsWallet

@Coupon-mad Whenever I see/read/hear "carmaggedon", I think of the old game series:

Snakes_Belly

https://employeebenefits.co.uk/kpmg-flexible-hybrid-working/
KMPG are introducing flexible working whereby staff go into the office for four days over two weeks. I guess that many other firms will follow suit so this will reduce the amount of cars on the road which will be a good thing for climate change.

IMO the PPC's are dinosaurs and not longer necessary as the landowners can manage their own car parks effectively without damaging the relationship with their customers.