I had to cancel virgin broadband

Lex068

jon81uk said:

Lex068 said:

Chino said:

Lex068 said:

Unfortunately virgin have the monopoly on speeds which is an unfair market as I’m sure you would agree.

Why would anyone agree with that? Virgin Media (or, more specifically, its predecessor companies) invested in the infrastructure enabling it to offer its service. Nothing has stopped other companies from offering similar or better services if they choose to make the necessary infrastructure investment.

I’m talking from a consumer point of view... I don’t know the reasons why British companies like BT didn’t invest and I’m sure you don’t know either. It’s just a shame we don’t more healthy competition. Its no easy task i’m sure. Anyway, virgin are back in my good books.

Openreach (Used to be the bit of BT that does the infrastructure) is investing and building more fibre. 

I can see they are trying which is good news. Better late than never. My address didn’t come up strangely but my neighbours did so not sure what that is about. I will again in the future. 

littleboo

Lex068 said:

littleboo said:

How do you use the internet? There is no point in paying for 350 Mbps is you don't use it, most households won't.

Downloading large files, watching 4K, and gaming mostly. Also the 350mm isn’t capped so it suits me. 

All of which can be done quite happily with much lower speeds. I have about 72 Mbps and do all that and more in a house of 4

iniltous

Lex068 said:

Chino said:

Lex068 said:

Unfortunately virgin have the monopoly on speeds which is an unfair market as I’m sure you would agree.

Why would anyone agree with that? Virgin Media (or, more specifically, its predecessor companies) invested in the infrastructure enabling it to offer its service. Nothing has stopped other companies from offering similar or better services if they choose to make the necessary infrastructure investment.

I’m talking from a consumer point of view... I don’t know the reasons why British companies like BT didn’t invest and I’m sure you don’t know either. It’s just a shame we don’t more healthy competition. Its no easy task i’m sure. Anyway, virgin are back in my good books.

Isn’t this a little hypocritical, BT had a network that was opened up to competitor company’s on a basis that was little more than cost based , Virgin actually took advantage of this arrangement that was imposed on BT, before anyone comments on the BT network being tax payer funded , what was privatisation if not shareholders buying the network from the taxpayer.
VM network is now very large and in some areas they dominate to such an extent that no competitor company would target that area as the likely return on investment would mean it makes no financial sense, the exact reasoning behind opening up BT network to competitors.
I can see why VM as a company would resist , but for a customer of VM to say ‘ I don’t want VM to have to open their network to others , the others should just build their own networks ‘ .
If someone said BT should be allowed to propose the same ( kick the likes of Sky and TT off OR network and simply say competitors should just build their own networks) , they wouldn’t think that was ‘fair’ to the competitors of BT , it’s just a case of ‘do as I say, not do as I do’, or put another way , hypocritical.

Lex068

It’s not hypocritical at all and I never said i didn’t want to Virgin to open there networks to others... I just feel as a customer it would be nice to have healthy competitive options out there. 

Lex068

littleboo said:

Lex068 said:

littleboo said:

How do you use the internet? There is no point in paying for 350 Mbps is you don't use it, most households won't.

Downloading large files, watching 4K, and gaming mostly. Also the 350mm isn’t capped so it suits me. 

All of which can be done quite happily with much lower speeds. I have about 72 Mbps and do all that and more in a house of 4

Depends really. You get better upload speeds with faster connections and lower speeds can be capped. Also the ping rate can be better 

littleboo

Lex068 said:

littleboo said:

Lex068 said:

littleboo said:

How do you use the internet? There is no point in paying for 350 Mbps is you don't use it, most households won't.

Downloading large files, watching 4K, and gaming mostly. Also the 350mm isn’t capped so it suits me. 

All of which can be done quite happily with much lower speeds. I have about 72 Mbps and do all that and more in a house of 4

Depends really. You get better upload speeds with faster connections and lower speeds can be capped. Also the ping rate can be better 

VM services have very poor upload/download ratios, 1/10, where FTTC is more like 1/4, so yes you can higher upload speeds on Virgin, but its only from the 350 package and above that upload speeds improve. None of the mainstream providers cap. Virgin latency is generally no better, and often worse, than other providers.

Marvel1

Do you need high speed?
I have the up to 38Mb and never have issues.

A_Lert

Lex068 said:

Downloading large files, watching 4K, and gaming mostly. Also the 350mm isn’t capped so it suits me. 

The 4K won't care unless you have multiple devices doing it. The gaming cares about ping more than throughput; hard to know if another service will be better or worse before switching. The downloads will be slower I'll give you, unless they were limited by the server anyway.