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  • Mickey666 said:
    What happens when someone doesn’t move their tiny house after the notice period ?

    someone else said you just keep getting warnings until eventually they will come and move you themselves but this takes ages to actually happen 
    If you're lucky.

    If you're unlucky someone might set your caravan/tinyhome alight.  When you're abusing the law by trespassing on someone else's land, you can't rely on them not to also abuse the law.  Feelings can run high about such things.

    Same with flytippers: https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/01/flytippers-really-regret-dumping-rubbish-farmers-land-9374134/
    Are you promoting hate crimes?
  • I quite like the idea of one of these tiny homes to stick on a property as a guest house, or just a place to spend the occasional night away from the main home.

    Having one by a river, with a log burning fire a veranda and a champagne fridge seems quite idyllic.
    Yes more and more people are thinking like us 
  • Mickey666
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    Mickey666 said:
    What happens when someone doesn’t move their tiny house after the notice period ?

    someone else said you just keep getting warnings until eventually they will come and move you themselves but this takes ages to actually happen 
    If you're lucky.

    If you're unlucky someone might set your caravan/tinyhome alight.  When you're abusing the law by trespassing on someone else's land, you can't rely on them not to also abuse the law.  Feelings can run high about such things.

    Same with flytippers: https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/01/flytippers-really-regret-dumping-rubbish-farmers-land-9374134/
    Are you promoting hate crimes?
    Not at all.  Just pointing out the obvious risks of abusing other people's property.
  • GeordieGeorge
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    Mickey666 said:
    What happens when someone doesn’t move their tiny house after the notice period ?

    someone else said you just keep getting warnings until eventually they will come and move you themselves but this takes ages to actually happen 
    If you're lucky.

    If you're unlucky someone might set your caravan/tinyhome alight.  When you're abusing the law by trespassing on someone else's land, you can't rely on them not to also abuse the law.  Feelings can run high about such things.

    Same with flytippers: https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/01/flytippers-really-regret-dumping-rubbish-farmers-land-9374134/
    Are you promoting hate crimes?
    Setting fire to your illegal property would be a crime, but not a hate crime. 
  • danjackson2021
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    So has the question been answered if someone has a tiny house on their own land for longer than they are allowed to, and the get told to move it and they don’t, what happens next?

    would they wait until it really came to it and it would be forcibly moved? 

    And then what would happen if they return after a little while?

     
  • QrizB
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    So has the question been answered if someone has a tiny house on their own land for longer than they are allowed to, and the get told to move it and they don’t, what happens next?
    The council will get a court order and evict them.
    would they wait until it really came to it and it would be forcibly moved?
    If they don't leave, the bailiffs will evict them.
    And then what would happen if they return after a little while?
    Depending on the wording of the court order they will be evicted again, arrested, fined and/or jailed. See for example:
    https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news/chester-cheshire-news/traveller-family-nowhere-go-facing-18690586
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  • in_my_wellies
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     They could know the exact dates because others will tell them, this is very, very common. Perhaps it will be the person who sold the land at agricultural value or a neighbour. or someone who also wanted to buy the land but lost out. The worst that can happen is you are taken to court where you are fined and your caravan is destroyed.
    Why haven't you phoned the local council? Could it be because you know your plans are not legal?
    I used to work for the Gypsy Traveller Education Service. The time taken for us to be notified that they had parked up in our authority was usually less than 2 hours 
    Love living in a village in the country side
  • sheramber
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    I thought you wanted to stay within the law, not find a way round it.
  • QrizB said:
    So has the question been answered if someone has a tiny house on their own land for longer than they are allowed to, and the get told to move it and they don’t, what happens next?
    The council will get a court order and evict them.
    would they wait until it really came to it and it would be forcibly moved?
    If they don't leave, the bailiffs will evict them.
    And then what would happen if they return after a little while?
    Depending on the wording of the court order they will be evicted again, arrested, fined and/or jailed. See for example:
    https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news/chester-cheshire-news/traveller-family-nowhere-go-facing-18690586
    If the land is owned by the person things are different they are indeed allowed to live in a tiny house for a number of days each year

    i don’t know where all the comparison to travelers staying on land illegally 

    the question is what if an inspector came and the person said yes we are staying on our own land occasionally for holidays and we won’t go over the limit per year.

    how would the inspectors count how many days per year they are there?
  • QrizB
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    QrizB said:
    So has the question been answered if someone has a tiny house on their own land for longer than they are allowed to, and the get told to move it and they don’t, what happens next?
    The council will get a court order and evict them.
    would they wait until it really came to it and it would be forcibly moved?
    If they don't leave, the bailiffs will evict them.
    And then what would happen if they return after a little while?
    Depending on the wording of the court order they will be evicted again, arrested, fined and/or jailed. See for example:
    https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news/chester-cheshire-news/traveller-family-nowhere-go-facing-18690586
    If the land is owned by the person things are different they are indeed allowed to live in a tiny house for a number of days each year

    i don’t know where all the comparison to travelers staying on land illegally
    I can only assume you didn't read the article.
    The Prices have been living at land they own in Widnes, but failed to obtain planning permission to covert it for residential use
    And:
    the question is what if an inspector came and the person said yes we are staying on our own land occasionally for holidays and we won’t go over the limit per year.
    how would the inspectors count how many days per year they are there?

    It's likely that your neighbours will happily report you. My experience is that country folk don't take kindly to interlopers trying to flout the rules.

    May I remind you of the Forum Rules, including:

    Do not promote, encourage or glamorise any illegal activities.
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