Selling Cat-D Car- Mini One help

angrycrow

https://www.gumtree.com/p/mini/2013-mini-one-hatchback-1.6-3-door-5-seat-6-speed-petrol.-only-26118-miles-immaculate.-cat-d/1387033191

Here is the add. First thing that would put me off other than cat d is the very low mileage. Second the images are really low res so impossible to see if the body is straight or not which is critical on a cat d car. The image of the front tyre makes it look like it is worn out suggesting the car is likely  to need tyres all round. Mot is very short. Finally it is over priced. 

Get a new mot, sort the tyres if they are worn out, get it off sorn so it can be test driven. Relist with better images and drop the price at least £500 to £750.

As others have suggested this being written off several years ago would not have been just a passenger door, I suspect the damage included the rear quarter panel and the sill. Dread to think what sort of bodgery could be hiding on the car. 

Grumpy_chap

How can a car be "immaculate" and catd?

Herzlos

Grumpy_chap said:

How can a car be "immaculate" and catd?

Cat D that's been repaired could be indistinguishable from an undamaged vehicle. It's just saying the insurance company decided to write it off rather than repair it.

Given that it's worth £4000ish *now*, that sounds like a lot more damage than a door (new doors + fitting + painting would be maybe £1000) unless there was some availability problems.

That said, if you're listing it as immaculate and cat D, you want to at least add a blurb explaining what the damage was and that it was repaired properly. It's the first thing a buyer will ask you so they can look more carefully at that area. Do you have any evidence of the damage/repair?

rexmedorum

George_Michael said:

Another couple of reasons you might have for the lack of interest is that due to the current Covid situation, a lot of people might be wary of going for a test drive plus the fact that it's currently sorned means that unless someone has driving other vehicles cover on their own insurance and this doesn't require the vehicle to be insured in it's own right, the number of potential buyers will be quite limited.

I think that there are a few things you need to do.
If you can, wait until lockdown has been eased then:
Get a full years MOT,
Reduce the price,
Take it off Sorn and get insurance.

Failing that, selling to one of the car buying companies may be your only real option if you need a quick sale.

Don't forget test drives are still not allowed and people have also been fined for travveling far for a private sale, so it's got to be one of the worst times ever to sell a car privately!

motorguy

Too expensive.

Heres a similar car with not much more miles from a dealer with a warranty, trade in facilities, hasnt been a write off, etc for a few pounds more.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102189203015

Cooper is far more appealing and heres one of those for a few hundred more.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102058725428

Generally speaking, those who are prepared to pay a premium for a very low miles car wont be interested in a Cat D car.  People who are happy to buy one will want it because its cheap, not because its low miles.

To be honest, it feels £1,000 too expensive, maybe more.   

hareng

motorguy said:

Too expensive.
To be honest, it feels £1,000 too expensive, maybe more.   

   Totally agree Cat D looking more like £2.5k when you can get a straight one from a dealer at £5450. Quite a few insurance companies wont insure, it has a bearing. Bought one 2 years ago dealers asking £7k+, private £6k, paid £3150 thats the difference.

Cat C and D ended in 2017 now replaced with Cat S and Cat N. Cat N replaced Cat D non structural ie panel damage, locks etc.

AdrianC

Sshabir said:

AdrianC said:

Thanks, George. That explains why I couldn't find it... I was searching based on the asking price in the post, not the actual one on the ad, which is £5,250... So it's a 2013 car, 62 plate.

And, yes, the ad header does say Cat D.

Something like this should be pretty easy to figure out a value for, simply because it's so common.
There are 48 2013 Mini Ones on Autotrader.
The cheapest is £2,800 - 80k mile Cat S.
Six non-write-offs under £4k.
4 <30k miles. Cheapest is £6,600 - and the lowest mileage, just 10k.
There's a £5k Cat S with 45k miles
£5,500 will get a non-write-off with 46k - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202009234119554 - unsold since September...
£5,150 will get a non-write-off with 61k - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202011035753020 - unsold since the start of November...
£5,500 will get a 2015, newer-shape CatS with 44k miles - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202011045782640 - unsold since the start of November...
or a 2015, newer-shape CatN with 84k miles - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202012066821392 - unsold since the start of December...

So, yes, OP... Overpriced.

Closest clue as to right pricing for yours...?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202011226371903
2012/62, 23k, Cat N, £4k, white - and still unsold since November.

Thanks Adrian.  Great research and the information in your reply is very useful.

Guess somebody didn't bother actually listening after all...
Still unsold - and the ad was refreshed eight days ago, now £5k...
https://www.gumtree.com/p/mini/2013-mini-one-hatchback-1.6-3-door-5-seat-6-speed-petrol.-only-26118-m/1387033191

And the MOT expires on Tuesday!

angrycrow

Did I miss the false representation of it being a Cooper model the first time round or has he changed it in the description. 

I also note in the time it has been sorned the battery has failed. Wonder what else needs attention, likely brakes and its now due its Mot tomorrow. 

Morbid curiosity I am almost tempted to offer a grand for it and risk it catastrophically failing the mot. Almost but not quite. 

Emmia

George_Michael said:

Another couple of reasons you might have for the lack of interest is that due to the current Covid situation, a lot of people might be wary of going for a test drive plus the fact that it's currently sorned means that unless someone has driving other vehicles cover on their own insurance and this doesn't require the vehicle to be insured in it's own right, the number of potential buyers will be quite limited.

I think that there are a few things you need to do.
If you can, wait until lockdown has been eased then:
Get a full years MOT,
Reduce the price,
Take it off Sorn and get insurance.

Failing that, selling to one of the car buying companies may be your only real option if you need a quick sale.

Most driving other vehicles cover on policies relies on the vehicle being otherwise insured by the owner/keeper - if the vehicle is SORN you'll probably need a motor dealer policy and trade plates. 

An ANPR camera would pick up a vehicle is that is SORN very easily.

motorguy

angrycrow said:

Did I miss the false representation of it being a Cooper model the first time round or has he changed it in the description. 

I also note in the time it has been sorned the battery has failed. Wonder what else needs attention, likely brakes and its now due its Mot tomorrow. 

Morbid curiosity I am almost tempted to offer a grand for it and risk it catastrophically failing the mot. Almost but not quite. 

Yup still a Cooper in the advert - "Extra Low miles petrol Mini Cooper"