UKPC / DCBL Letter

LewisN2

yeah you guys are right to be honest... i am just stressed about it all

the next step is for me to reply to DCB Legal, as you have all highlighted i should not reply using the forms, can someone help me structure an email or letter and also a email address or postal to send to?

1- deny all debt
2- seeking legal advice (unsure if i need this point as i dont need extra time as i have SAR)
3- ask for what legal grounds there are working on to add unknown amounts to the fine..

i dont meant to disregard what you guys are saying but it seems the reply form already have boxes for me to put all of the above - dispute it, option to tick legal advice and also extra information box what is the point of sending a separate letter other than the pure fact of its a form issued by them?

Coupon-mad

I would ask for the 30 day hold but also timed carefully, to respond to DCBL on the last day the LBC states.

Unless you really want a claim form winging its way to you just before Xmas?  Surely January will be a clearer month unless you celebrate something else then, as I know some religions do.

A sign opposite a roadway never relates to the opposite kerb on street (going by proper Council rules).  So there is no reason, if stopping on a completely unmarked kerb, to seek out a sign opposite.  This isn't a car park, it's an access road and they should have marked it properly if they wanted contractual terms to apply to that kerb.

How would a driver even know that road is private land, managed by an AOS member?

Also, predatory pics across 2 minutes flat doesn't discount that the driver was just loading, unloading, or assisting a passenger to or from nearby premises, none of which is parking (JOPSON v Home Guard).

Also, the sign is forbidding and makes no offer because there is no consideration on offer (nothing of value).

As well as Jopson, read PCM v Bull and Pace v Lengyel, all of which court transcripts are hosted by the Parking Prankster online.

LewisN2

yes i am going to wait and see if they take me to court and i will fight it if so.

however i am still struggling with the letter which i should send to DCB Legal in response to the letter of claim (LBC) , i found the postal address which is fine.

1- deny all debt
2- seeking legal advice 
3- ask for what legal grounds there are working on to add unknown amounts to the fine..

is there anything other than the 3 above points which anyone sees value in adding?

patient_dream

LewisN2 said:

yes i am going to wait and see if they take me to court and i will fight it if so.

however i am still struggling with the letter which i should send to DCB Legal in response to the letter of claim (LBC) , i found the postal address which is fine.

1- deny all debt
2- seeking legal advice 
3- ask for what legal grounds there are working on to add unknown amounts to the fine..

is there anything other than the 3 above points which anyone sees value in adding?

Apart from telling DCBL that they are complete idiots, nothing more you can add at this stage

I again refer to what coupon-mad says above. She should know, she has zapped these scammers many times 

This is a game we play every day.  DCBL are nothing special and if they are stupid enough to take this one to court, it will cost UKPC money which they can ill afford

Over to you UKPC, you already know the disaster that DCBL can bring, time to wake up ?

And by the way LewisN2 we all think the same so really no point in asking for further advice, coupon-,mad has summoned this up in a nutshell ..... JUST WAIT

LewisN2

Yes I will just play the waiting game now and see if they proceed with a court claim…

Thank you all again, I will let you know if and when I hear something back 

patient_dream

LewisN2 said:

Yes I will just play the waiting game now and see if they proceed with a court claim…

Thank you all again, I will let you know if and when I hear something back 

Good. If you actually receive a court claim we can proceed to the next step which is to scupper DCBL / UKPC

LewisN2

patient_dream said:

LewisN2 said:

Yes I will just play the waiting game now and see if they proceed with a court claim…

Thank you all again, I will let you know if and when I hear something back 

Good. If you actually receive a court claim we can proceed to the next step which is to scupper DCBL / UKPC

Fingers crossed they won’t go for this one… 

patient_dream

LewisN2 said:

patient_dream said:

LewisN2 said:

Yes I will just play the waiting game now and see if they proceed with a court claim…

Thank you all again, I will let you know if and when I hear something back 

Good. If you actually receive a court claim we can proceed to the next step which is to scupper DCBL / UKPC

Fingers crossed they won’t go for this one… 

YUP. but is more like fingers crossed for DCBL as they will be heading for another court spanking

KeithP

Yes, as @Coupon-mad said earlier...

Coupon-mad said:

Also, the sign is forbidding and makes no offer because there is no consideration on offer (nothing of value).

Or to put it another way, it is not possible to agree to do something that is forbidden.

As UKPC have stated that you can't park there, how on earth can they then turn around and say that there is any contract in place between them and the motorist?

Coupon-mad

I meant by email, not postal address, when I recommended this delay:

I would ask for the 30 day hold but also timed carefully, to respond to DCBL on the last day the LBC states.