Boiler to be replaced

Andy_L

Jeremy535897 said:

You can leave your home "to avoid injury or illness or to escape a risk of harm".

Or any "reasonable excuse" I'd be happy that "I've no heating/hot water, there's snow on the ground & I've a couple of hairy 'rsed plumbers traipsing around the house" is a reasonable excuse for not being at home and see where the copper gets with the "Engage, Explain, Educate & Enforce" 4 step approach in the unlikely event they turn up at the hotel demanding to see everyone's papers.

The OP's problem is will Travel Lodge see it as an  "unable to return home" reason that allows them to let him have a room

macman

Most installers will provide some portable heaters for a cold weather install, if requested and given adequate notice.

Jeremy535897

Andy_L said:

Jeremy535897 said:

You can leave your home "to avoid injury or illness or to escape a risk of harm".

Or any "reasonable excuse" I'd be happy that "I've no heating/hot water, there's snow on the ground & I've a couple of hairy 'rsed plumbers traipsing around the house" is a reasonable excuse for not being at home and see where the copper gets with the "Engage, Explain, Educate & Enforce" 4 step approach in the unlikely event they turn up at the hotel demanding to see everyone's papers.

The OP's problem is will Travel Lodge see it as an  "unable to return home" reason that allows them to let him have a room

There is no blanket "reasonable excuse" exemption.

Andy_L

Jeremy535897 said:

Andy_L said:

Jeremy535897 said:

You can leave your home "to avoid injury or illness or to escape a risk of harm".

Or any "reasonable excuse" I'd be happy that "I've no heating/hot water, there's snow on the ground & I've a couple of hairy 'rsed plumbers traipsing around the house" is a reasonable excuse for not being at home and see where the copper gets with the "Engage, Explain, Educate & Enforce" 4 step approach in the unlikely event they turn up at the hotel demanding to see everyone's papers.

The OP's problem is will Travel Lodge see it as an  "unable to return home" reason that allows them to let him have a room

There is no blanket "reasonable excuse" exemption.

There is for being away from your home (which is what the OP would risk being done for), but not for if a hotel can rent you a room

Jeremy535897

Andy_L said:

Jeremy535897 said:

Andy_L said:

Jeremy535897 said:

You can leave your home "to avoid injury or illness or to escape a risk of harm".

Or any "reasonable excuse" I'd be happy that "I've no heating/hot water, there's snow on the ground & I've a couple of hairy 'rsed plumbers traipsing around the house" is a reasonable excuse for not being at home and see where the copper gets with the "Engage, Explain, Educate & Enforce" 4 step approach in the unlikely event they turn up at the hotel demanding to see everyone's papers.

The OP's problem is will Travel Lodge see it as an  "unable to return home" reason that allows them to let him have a room

There is no blanket "reasonable excuse" exemption.

There is for being away from your home (which is what the OP would risk being done for), but not for if a hotel can rent you a room

Where in the law does it say this?
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1374/contents

KxMx

Kettle, hot water bottles and cheap portable heaters. 
Most can cope with that set up surely for a few days? 

Andy_L

Jeremy535897 said:

Andy_L said:

Jeremy535897 said:

Andy_L said:

Jeremy535897 said:

You can leave your home "to avoid injury or illness or to escape a risk of harm".

Or any "reasonable excuse" I'd be happy that "I've no heating/hot water, there's snow on the ground & I've a couple of hairy 'rsed plumbers traipsing around the house" is a reasonable excuse for not being at home and see where the copper gets with the "Engage, Explain, Educate & Enforce" 4 step approach in the unlikely event they turn up at the hotel demanding to see everyone's papers.

The OP's problem is will Travel Lodge see it as an  "unable to return home" reason that allows them to let him have a room

There is no blanket "reasonable excuse" exemption.

There is for being away from your home (which is what the OP would risk being done for), but not for if a hotel can rent you a room

Where in the law does it say this?
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1374/contents

PART 1Restrictions on movement

Restrictions on leaving home

1.—(1) No person who lives in the Tier 4 area may leave or be outside of the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.

Jeremy535897

Andy_L said:

Jeremy535897 said:

Andy_L said:

Jeremy535897 said:

Andy_L said:

Jeremy535897 said:

You can leave your home "to avoid injury or illness or to escape a risk of harm".

Or any "reasonable excuse" I'd be happy that "I've no heating/hot water, there's snow on the ground & I've a couple of hairy 'rsed plumbers traipsing around the house" is a reasonable excuse for not being at home and see where the copper gets with the "Engage, Explain, Educate & Enforce" 4 step approach in the unlikely event they turn up at the hotel demanding to see everyone's papers.

The OP's problem is will Travel Lodge see it as an  "unable to return home" reason that allows them to let him have a room

There is no blanket "reasonable excuse" exemption.

There is for being away from your home (which is what the OP would risk being done for), but not for if a hotel can rent you a room

Where in the law does it say this?
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1374/contents

PART 1Restrictions on movement

Restrictions on leaving home

1.—(1) No person who lives in the Tier 4 area may leave or be outside of the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.

Then it says:

"(2) For the purposes of sub-paragraph (1)—

(a)the circumstances in which a person has a reasonable excuse include where one of the exceptions set out in paragraph 2 applies;"

I know Dominic Cummings put your argument forward, in that "include" means "Include but not limited to", but I think that the court of public opinion saw that for what it was.

Andy_L

Jeremy535897 said:

Andy_L said:

Jeremy535897 said:

Andy_L said:

Jeremy535897 said:

Andy_L said:

Jeremy535897 said:

You can leave your home "to avoid injury or illness or to escape a risk of harm".

Or any "reasonable excuse" I'd be happy that "I've no heating/hot water, there's snow on the ground & I've a couple of hairy 'rsed plumbers traipsing around the house" is a reasonable excuse for not being at home and see where the copper gets with the "Engage, Explain, Educate & Enforce" 4 step approach in the unlikely event they turn up at the hotel demanding to see everyone's papers.

The OP's problem is will Travel Lodge see it as an  "unable to return home" reason that allows them to let him have a room

There is no blanket "reasonable excuse" exemption.

There is for being away from your home (which is what the OP would risk being done for), but not for if a hotel can rent you a room

Where in the law does it say this?
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1374/contents

PART 1Restrictions on movement

Restrictions on leaving home

1.—(1) No person who lives in the Tier 4 area may leave or be outside of the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.

Then it says:

"(2) For the purposes of sub-paragraph (1)—

(a)the circumstances in which a person has a reasonable excuse include where one of the exceptions set out in paragraph 2 applies;"

I know Dominic Cummings put your argument forward, in that "include" means "Include but not limited to", but I think that the court of public opinion saw that for what it was.

That is how the law works - if it meant you can only leave for these reasons it would say so.
Plus,ISTR that you asked where the law said that, rather than the Court of Public Opinion.

Grumpy_chap

All the exceptions are listed in the legislation.  Anything not included in that list is excluded and not permitted.