Vehicle Control Services court letter: 42-months after alleged incident, and no prior correspondence

Redx

You may not even say a word !!! Apart from confirming your I D 

Depends on if a judge has spotted a legal flaw , if the other side turn up or not , if they think you need to answer any questions or not , many factors !!  You may feel like a silent viewer in a shooting match or watching boxers slug it out !!

It may be a slam dunk , so you may be elated but deflated at the same time , due to not having your say

Fruitcake

Do ask for costs if you win. If you haven't included a summary costs assessment, fire one off today, especially if you have taken time off work or used holiday.

Covid_Vaccinator

Thanks, I've done that - £500

Fruitcake said:

Do ask for costs if you win. If you haven't included a summary costs assessment, fire one off today, especially if you have taken time off work or used holiday.

Coupon-mad

Read the court hearing tips in the NEWB IES thread.

Claimant summarises their case first.

Then it's your turn to pick up on anything they've said, holes in their evidence photos, other issues and summarise your position.

Then the Judge decides and if they say you've won, clear your throat as ask if you can be awarded costs for attending the hearing, if you had to suffer loss of leave or take a day's holiday for the call.. You won't get £500 unless you can show the Claimant has acted 'wholly unreasonably'. 

Covid_Vaccinator

Thought I could claim £19/hr alongside £95 for the hearing? There is also the printing & posting etc.

Hopefully judge thinks it was "wholly unreasonable" - after all - on 11th Feb VCS entered a court judgement on their database stating that the judge had found in their favour on 12th Feb (yes, they entered the decision prior to the hearing). Proof - printed database details from 11th Feb (done as part of my SAR). I had already emailed CCBC & spoke to the CCBC team on 11th - prior to VCS entering the incorrect judgement on their database. The judge had never made this decision, and it was sent to local court.
However VCS then sent me a "NOTICE OF RECOVERY" letter on 16th Feb stating that judge had found in their favour.

No apology.
No explanation.

This is contained in my WS.


They also sent me name & case number for another person (above also attached in my WS).

Coupon-mad

Actually that is pretty damn unreasonable litigation conduct, so make sure you read all this out slowly and deliberately:

...on 11th Feb VCS MISLED ME THAT I HAD LOST BY DEFAULT 

VCS then sent me a "NOTICE OF RECOVERY" letter on 16th Feb stating that judge had found in their favour.

No apology.
No explanation.
This is contained in my WS.

They also sent me name & case number for another person (above also attached in my WS).

Covid_Vaccinator

Thank you @Coupon-mad - it will be the first thing I mention.


RE data protection breach, I received the following from Mark Robinson, Data Compliance Team, VCS:

The document you have supplied shows a letterhead to the court with no personal information contained for XX XXXXXX other than his name and the Courts Reference, which has accidently been included in the bundle that we issued to you.

The information you hold for XX XXXXXX  in itself is Public Information in any event. Therefore we are satisfied that a breach has not occurred.

We have also reviewed the documents issued to XX XXXXXX and confirm that none of your personal information or any reference to our case with yourself is contained within the data issued. Therefore a breach has not occurred in this instance either.

We further advise that whilst this is an unfortunate oversight, it is thankfully a unique instance of the wrong letterhead being inadvertently being included within the documents issued.

We trust this answers your points raised below in relation to the alleged GDPR breaches you raised.

Yours Sincerely

Mark Robinson

Data Compliance Team

--> I note their "unfortunate oversight" defence - perhaps explains why so many people are temporarily parked in a VCS carpark for a few minutes before moving (photos demonstrate I was there for 61 seconds).

Coupon-mad said:

Actually that is pretty damn unreasonable litigation conduct, so make sure you read all this out slowly and deliberately:

...on 11th Feb VCS MISLED ME THAT I HAD LOST BY DEFAULT 

VCS then sent me a "NOTICE OF RECOVERY" letter on 16th Feb stating that judge had found in their favour.

No apology.
No explanation.
This is contained in my WS.

They also sent me name & case number for another person (above also attached in my WS).

Covid_Vaccinator

I spoke to the store manager and they advised that they would have asked VCS to cancel the charge if we had known about it earlier (July 2016). It has also been escalated to senior complaints manager.

I intend to flag this to the judge today.

Covid_Vaccinator

Also, I think that I should report these issues to the Solicitors' Regulation Authority - I will mention this to the judge(!)

Coupon-mad said:

Actually that is pretty damn unreasonable litigation conduct, so make sure you read all this out slowly and deliberately:

...on 11th Feb VCS MISLED ME THAT I HAD LOST BY DEFAULT 

VCS then sent me a "NOTICE OF RECOVERY" letter on 16th Feb stating that judge had found in their favour.

No apology.
No explanation.
This is contained in my WS.

They also sent me name & case number for another person (above also attached in my WS).

Redx

Covid_Vaccinator said:

Coupon-mad said:

It's not wrong but not really necessary to put that in a WS.

Thanks.
Hearing is on Wednesday - listed for 1hr - typically how long will a judge grill me? Hopefully WS is so strong that there won't be many questions and a VCS capitulation....

So how did you get on yesterday please ??