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Vehicle Control Services court letter: 42-months after alleged incident, and no prior correspondence

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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    On 11 February at 4:15PM you confirmed that you sent your Defence to CCBCAQ@Justice.gov.uk.

    In a paragraph 1) in your most recent post the court is told that your Witness Statement says....
    I immediately contacted CCBC who confirmed that my defence was filed in time by email to customerservice.mcol@hmcourts-service.gsi.gov.uk . 

    That's a very old email address that you have dug up from somewhere.

  • 1505grandad
    1505grandad Posts: 4,222 Forumite
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    As VCS are IPC AoS members it is no good quoting the BPA CoP  -  use the IPC CoP relevant at the time of the parking event.
  • KeithP said:
    On 11 February at 4:15PM you confirmed that you sent your Defence to CCBCAQ@Justice.gov.uk.

    In a paragraph 1) in your most recent post the court is told that your Witness Statement says....
    I immediately contacted CCBC who confirmed that my defence was filed in time by email to customerservice.mcol@hmcourts-service.gsi.gov.uk . 

    That's a very old email address that you have dug up from somewhere.

    Can't remember where I got that email address - I think it was from CCBC  employee. It was acted upon immediately.
  • Thanks all - hopefully this makes sense.
    Court listed 30/6 - need to submit 3 working days prior to hearing.

    I have attached my statement to a dropbox account - https://www.dropbox.com/s/wge0p3xdr7pkqoe/COURT-MSE.pdf?dl=0


    All help hugely appreciated.
  • KeithP
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    edited 25 June 2021 at 12:32AM
    Court listed 30/6 - need to submit 3 working days prior to hearing.
    Usually Witness Statements and evidence need to be file with the court and served on the Claimant at least two weeks before any hearing.

    Have another look at your Notice of Allocation - the Notice that gave you the hearing date?

    Is there not a paragraph something like:
    Each party must deliver to every other party and to the court office copies of all documents on which he intends to rely at the hearing no later than [ . . . ] [14 days before the hearing].
    Might be on the back.

    Those documents you intend to rely on are your Witness Statement and evidence.
  • Redx
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    Or there are 2 court orders

    Order 1 as mentioned above , with maybe a 14 days deadline

    Order 2 ( subsequent order ) detailing the 3 days requirements as well , due to remote covid hearings

    If you have already received the witness statement from the claimant , then yours was due , they have the same deadlines as you
  • Thanks to @Silversea for pointing out that my details were shown in the dropbox document - I have amended - https://www.dropbox.com/s/ish5e9v6jq0m9i2/COURT-MSE-1.pdf?dl=0


    @KeithP, @Redx - definitely 3 days prior to hearing (so 4pm today) That said - I have been on GP Fit notes for >4 weeks, and have requested a rearrangement.
  • Worth including this?


    The defendant notes comments by MPs within the Parking (Code of Practice) Bill Volume 635: debated on Friday 2 February 2018 – https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-02-02/debates/CC84AF5E-AC6E-4E14-81B1-066E6A892807/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill

    ''Rip-offs from car park Cowboys must stop''; unfair treatment; signage deliberately confusing to ensure a PCN is issued; ''years of abuse by rogue parking companies''; bloodsuckers; ''the current system of regulation is hopeless, like putting Dracula in charge of the blood-bank''; extortionate fines; rogue operators; ''sense of injustice''; unfair charges and notices; wilfully misleading; signage is a deliberate act to deceive or mislead; ''confusing signs are often deliberate, to trap innocent drivers''; unreasonable; a curse; harassing; operating in a disgusting way; appeals service is no guarantee of a fair hearing; loathed; outrageous scam; dodgy practice; outrageous abuse; unscrupulous practices; ''the British Parking Association is as much use as a multi-storey car park in the Gobi desert''; and finally, by way of unanimous conclusion: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists and ordinary residents should not have to put up with this''.


  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,592 Forumite
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    It is always worth reminding judges of whom is appearing before them 
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • 1505grandad
    1505grandad Posts: 4,222 Forumite
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    Have not read thoroughly but you still have numerous quotes from BPA CoP which are irrelevant as VCS are IPC AoS members (as pointed out 9th June).

    Also not sure of the SoT as it says "defence".
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