NCP and BW Legal CCBC claim for being "Parked without payment of the parking charge"

Redx

Sorry to hear that , but there are no guarantees in litigation !!

You gave it your best shot , so chalk it up to a learning experience !!

Don't let it get you down , not everyone wins

Umkomaas

Sorry to hear that you lost, but to know that you didn't cop for the extras PPCs pile on in the hope that a dozy Judge will let them slip through ...... other than this element you quote above.

and attendance fees

What are these, and how much?  For a telephone hearing?

Coupon-mad

 and attendance fees.

They should not have been awarded those.

How come you lost if the Judge accepted that their WS showed no t&c sign?

railwaytaverncustomer

There was no separate T+C sign at entrance.
Judge did not allow some of their "administration costs" as stated in T+Cs.

So total to be paid is the £100 fine, plus 1 percent interest (not 8 as claimant wanted), plus the approximate 48 pounds fee for organisation of telephone hearing.
I also think that the 95 pounds attendance fees for the person attending the hearing on behalf of NCP was awarded. Total maybe 250? Could be wrong though. Will find out what needs paying when judgment is posted to me I guess.

Maybe I needed to push more on the abuse of process angle. 
I thought I did ok. Covered all the main arguments, (poor signage, double recovery meaning an abuse of process, anpr times not equating to time parked.) Judge did not watch my link to video showing me driving through CP.

I learnt lots and am happy I tried my best. 
I may have caught myself up by saying I knew and understood the pre-anpr  T+C's and that a fine would be owed if I broke them. I had no way of proving my car was parked less than 10 min.

Will share ws and judgment soon.

Coupon-mad

I think you did a good job, but they shouldn't have got this:

I also think that the 95 pounds attendance fees for the person attending the hearing
 plus the approximate 48 pounds fee for organisation of telephone hearing.

A hearing is a right and the only cost for that is a £25 flat rate hearing fee, not any admin costs for a 3rd party to 'host' the call!   Costs must be 'reasonably incurred' and £48 was not.

We've never heard of a PPC asking for that, let alone getting it!  It surely makes a mockery of court, if PPCs can charge a sum that a court doesn't charge when they arrange telephone hearings, or host them in person. 

railwaytaverncustomer

I could be incorrect. Will let everyone know the full judgment when I receive it. 

How long do I have to pay the judgement exactly? 

Umkomaas

railwaytaverncustomer said:

I could be incorrect. Will let everyone know the full judgment when I receive it. 

How long do I have to pay the judgement exactly? 

Normally one month (infrequently it can be less), but it should be confirmed in the judgment communication. Please don't miss that deadline or there's a whole lot of expensive and credit-debilitating pain to endure. 

To add - I don't think the court will break down the separate elements of the costs, just a global sum.