Companies in the UK (Mainland) who will no longer deliver to N.Ireland?

Tammykitty

donnac2558 said:

Yes, the fines are for people doing unnecessary journeys not people who travel up and down every day to go to work.  If you cannot work from home people are still going to work and that includes those who work in the Republic and come home to the North every day.   Farmers tending their fields.   You do know England is a different country as is Scotland and Wales?  Parts of the UK but different countries.

People who live in Northern Ireland will face fines from Monday onwards if they are caught crossing the Irish border without "a reasonable excuse".

The unprecedented step has been taken by the Irish government in a bid to prevent the spread of Covid-19.

Anyone engaged in cross-border travel in breach of Ireland's Covid-19 restrictions will be fined €100 (£88).

Gardaí (Irish police) have said the new rules will be enforced from 07:00 local time on Monday 8 February.

Northern Ireland residents who have to cross the border for essential work or essential purposes, such as seeking medical treatment, will be exempt from fines.

Public health guidance in NI says people "should not travel in or out of Northern Ireland except where it is essential to do so".

There was a commission which was supposed to be set up in January 2019 to monitor and sort out the problems of products coming from the EU and the UK and Northern Ireland.  It was never set up the Tories just as usually ignored and thought it will all just sort it's self out.

ripplyuk said:

donnac2558 said:

ripplyuk said:

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ripplyuk said:

qwert_yuiop said:

So, is there anyone left who still thinks brexit is a good idea? Why?

Since these are all British businesses, surely the problem is that we’re still in the EU single market? If we’d left along with the rest of the U.K., sending goods from the mainland to here wouldn’t be an issue. It seems to me that it’s not so much brexit being the problem but rather a ‘lack of’ brexit. 

I’m surprised that you casually say that like it’s easy. The reason why this is so complicated is the hard work that brought about the Good Friday agreement and ended the troubles. This whole Brexit affair has the potential further down the road of unraveling the agreement or at least causing flash points of violence. 

The Irish Sea border has the potential to cause a return of violence too. I don’t know what the answer is but right now, it feels like we are surrounded by borders; one with the ROI and now one in the Irish Sea. Personally, I would have no problem having a hard border with the ROI of it allows us to trade freely with the rest of the U.K. but I accept that certain people would kick off if that happened. The good Friday agreement was a long time ago and things change. We should be able to do what makes sense in practical terms rather than being stuck in the past. 

Oh, there is no border with ROI, we like them are still in the EU goods market so stuff travels freeing between the Republic and N.I.

Of course there’s a border! It’s a different country. They’re going to start issuing fines if we cross that border without a good excuse which would be a bit strange if one doesn’t exist. 

We’re still in the EU single market but that is causing problems for businesses in the ROI as well as us. A large amount of their stock comes through Dover. 

The COVID border isn't a border as such,it is simply treating visitors to the South of Ireland the same as those resident.
The new rule is an extension of the existing rule, where no-one resident is allowed to travel unless its for essential purposes or for exercise within 5km of home..so no non residents are subject to the same rules (Which tbh if there are going to be restrictions should have always been the case).
There is not going to be a checkpoint on all the 300 border crosssings, some will have checkpoints at various times, thats not a hard border, its covid checkpoints, like are in place all over Ireland,

Also the guards have been on the border beside me nearly every day (or actually, about 500 yards beyond the border) for months, despite the fact the didn't have authority to fine you, but there are a number of back roads easy to cross!

qwert_yuiop

Here’s what I got this morning from everyone’s favourite freebie Presbyterian after I contacted him to ask if he regretted getting us into this mess. No chance.
”Brexit is good for the U.K.” blithely stated as if it was actually true, counter to all evidence, and without any support. I then asked him if he could think of any way brexit was good for the U.K., and if it was, did this balance out the obvious damage it was doing to us. He hasn’t got back to me. Maybe he’ll answer when he’s thought of some benefit. Damned if I can.

qwert_yuiop

Did he really expect the eu to pay for a hard border? Has he any clue at all?

RikM

And cheese is the latest casualty...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55978194

ripplyuk

I got an email from the shop I order sweets/gifts from in Herefordshire (Jessica’s sweets) saying that the government are ‘allowing’ them to post to NI until the end of March but after that they will not be able to deliver here at all. 

I found the wording interesting. This business clearly believes they have no choice. The rules obviously become much more stringent in April so I expect there will be many more businesses refusing to deliver here from then on. 

La Roche Posay and Columbia Sports also won’t deliver here anymore. I managed to find the coat I wanted from Columbia on eBay but the cost was almost 50% more. 

Coolhandluke

We can add Timberland to the list now aswell. 

qwert_yuiop

Down south today, I’m told that Amazon users here are buying from Amazon Deutschland, as it’s now quicker than ordering from England. 

RikM

If we're still in the SM/CU, does that mean we can still buy from the EU without the new GB rigmarole...?

MattMattMattUK

ripplyuk said:

I got an email from the shop I order sweets/gifts from in Herefordshire (Jessica’s sweets) saying that the government are ‘allowing’ them to post to NI until the end of March but after that they will not be able to deliver here at all. 

I found the wording interesting. This business clearly believes they have no choice. The rules obviously become much more stringent in April so I expect there will be many more businesses refusing to deliver here from then on. 

La Roche Posay and Columbia Sports also won’t deliver here anymore. I managed to find the coat I wanted from Columbia on eBay but the cost was almost 50% more. 

Once the full rules are in place, in relation to your post those for food exports it will likely be far too costly and time consuming for SMEs to export to NI/EU. For many SMEs non-food exports might well no be worth the time and effort, rules of origin, safety and potentially regulatory compliance and certification, I think many people really had no idea how complicated exporting can be.

qwert_yuiop

RikM said:

If we're still in the SM/CU, does that mean we can still buy from the EU without the new GB rigmarole...?

Yes. You’ll just have to put up with currency charges on your credit card.

Try a revolut card before they change their policy.