Another Victim of One Parking Solutions at Stanmer Park Brighton in Oct 20, now at POPLAR.

Coupon-mad

Yes, and until the BPA gave them a slap, they were issuing POFA NTKs, until September.

KC4499

@Coupon-mad - today I received this........

From: POPLA Info [mailto:info@popla.co.uk]
Subject: We have adjourned your appeal

Dear BBBBBBBBBBB

 We have adjourned your appeal 

 Thank you for raising your appeal with POPLA.  

 POPLA understands that during the COVID-19 pandemic, it is going to be difficult or impossible for motorists and operators to effectively appeal. In the interests of fairness, we have decided to adjourn all appeals received 28 November onwards in addition to some appeals received shortly before this time. Adjournment means that appeals will be put on hold and we will take no action until things return to normal. It also means operators are not allowed to chase payment while this appeal is registered with POPLA. 

We have placed your appeal on hold. When we start considering appeals again, we will write to affected parties and let them know what steps we need them to take, if any, to ensure everyone gets a fair opportunity to put their case forward. 

 Please check our website and your inbox regularly for more information and updates. 

 Kind regards 

POPLA Team

Redx

Common at the moment due to covid lockdown etc

Brown trout posted about it last week

beamerguy

Adjournment means that appeals will be put on hold and we will take no action until things return to normal. It also means operators are not allowed to chase payment while this appeal is registered with POPLA. 

As BrownTrout said, WHY NOW ..... Covid and lockdown hit all companies back in March.
There is a lot more here than meets the eye.
This now places all BPA members into a dead end including of course Parking Eye.
Unsure what they mean "until things return to normal", it's obvious that even with the vaccine, it will be at least Spring 2021

Even if POPLA waited until spring, with the countless thousands of tickets issued, POPLA simply could not cope, they struggle to cope now.

This will destroy parking companies, the debt collectors and the legals which is good.

This alone could destroy the BPA as there is no point in a PPC paying money when they are blocked from proceeding. No point in getting DVLA details if there is a brick wall ahead

Is this a new way for the BPA to set up a new WHOPLA or, is this government intervention ?

All BPA members must be looking forward to scamming motorists now xmas is here but what is the point, when they will hit a dead end ?

Will the DVLA allow BPA members to change to the IPC ?

Will the BPA have the guts to comment on here ?

Coupon-mad

KC4499 said:

@Coupon-mad - today I received this........

From: POPLA Info [mailto:info@popla.co.uk]
Subject: We have adjourned your appeal

Dear BBBBBBBBBBB

 We have adjourned your appeal 

 Thank you for raising your appeal with POPLA.  

 POPLA understands that during the COVID-19 pandemic, it is going to be difficult or impossible for motorists and operators to effectively appeal. In the interests of fairness, we have decided to adjourn all appeals received 28 November onwards in addition to some appeals received shortly before this time. Adjournment means that appeals will be put on hold and we will take no action until things return to normal. It also means operators are not allowed to chase payment while this appeal is registered with POPLA. 

We have placed your appeal on hold. When we start considering appeals again, we will write to affected parties and let them know what steps we need them to take, if any, to ensure everyone gets a fair opportunity to put their case forward. 

 Please check our website and your inbox regularly for more information and updates. 

 Kind regards 

POPLA Team

That might do you a favour if you are lucky, because when POPLA open cases up again they might just give appellants a chance to add to their appeal.  You never know, and if that happens you can then add a more detailed appeal.  It may not happen but if POPLA do offer that to you before they refer back to OPS, grab the opportunity.

beamerguy

Coupon-mad said:

KC4499 said:

@Coupon-mad - today I received this........

From: POPLA Info [mailto:info@popla.co.uk]
Subject: We have adjourned your appeal

Dear BBBBBBBBBBB

 We have adjourned your appeal 

 Thank you for raising your appeal with POPLA.  

 POPLA understands that during the COVID-19 pandemic, it is going to be difficult or impossible for motorists and operators to effectively appeal. In the interests of fairness, we have decided to adjourn all appeals received 28 November onwards in addition to some appeals received shortly before this time. Adjournment means that appeals will be put on hold and we will take no action until things return to normal. It also means operators are not allowed to chase payment while this appeal is registered with POPLA. 

We have placed your appeal on hold. When we start considering appeals again, we will write to affected parties and let them know what steps we need them to take, if any, to ensure everyone gets a fair opportunity to put their case forward. 

 Please check our website and your inbox regularly for more information and updates. 

 Kind regards 

POPLA Team

That might do you a favour if you are lucky, because when POPLA open cases up again they might just give appellants a chance to add to their appeal.  You never know, and if that happens you can then add a more detailed appeal.  It may not happen but if POPLA do offer that to you before they refer back to OPS, grab the opportunity.

I don't think POPLA will open again, it's not financially worth it with the way they operate.
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If they wait until things to get better with covid, there will be a backlog of countless thousands of appeals which at their current rate will take months to clear and because of the financial way they operate, they could not afford the extra staff to cope.

The BPA as an ATA is charged with providing the PPC with a service and the motorist with a fair appeals service.   The BPA should be charged with negligence

The PPC's, the debt collectors and legals will now be tearing their hair out

Umkomaas

A well articulated analysis of a potential scenario @beamerguy. 

KC4499

Thanks to everyone for their ongoing help. Whilst my POPLA complaint hangs in teh ether, I am drafting my complaint to BHCC. I noticed that many of teh appeal templaints refer to 'POFA' as in "To use the Ombudsman's word, based upon his careful and considered interpretation of the explanatory notes for Schedule 4 of the POFA, it is ''irrelevant'' whether or not the landowner is exercising its statutory control powers, or not." My problem is I cant cant the definition of POFA in the Newbies file. That only mentions "POFA 2012 = Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 " - is that the same thing please?
Many thanks

Redx

Yep , same thing , POFA is the abbreviation for it , like covid for covid19

Coupon-mad

KC4499 said:

Thanks to everyone for their ongoing help. Whilst my POPLA complaint hangs in teh ether, I am drafting my complaint to BHCC. I noticed that many of teh appeal templaints refer to 'POFA' as in "To use the Ombudsman's word, based upon his careful and considered interpretation of the explanatory notes for Schedule 4 of the POFA, it is ''irrelevant'' whether or not the landowner is exercising its statutory control powers, or not." My problem is I cant cant the definition of POFA in the Newbies file. That only mentions "POFA 2012 = Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 " - is that the same thing please?
Many thanks

The BPA stopped OPS from issuing POFA NTKs at Stanmer Park a couple of months ago as a result of a complaint. They are now all non-POFA but BHCC still can't operate this public car park this way because Stanmer Park is not Housing land.  They can't operate public car parks as if they are 'private land' and there is a pending Traffic Order in hand, so clearly it's not private land! 

Rob Dumbrill is the Stanmer Estate Manager and another person who has answered complaints is Benjamin Tedder.  Neither appear to have a clue why this isn't legal and will fob off all complaints, including from MPs and Councillors.