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JamoLew

Nurses, midwives, health visitors, physiotherapists and mental health officers in the 1995 Section and in post on or before 6 March 1995 (which we describe as having ‘Special Class Status’) have the right to retire from a Normal Pension Age of 55 without a reduction applied to their pension, subject to certain criteria being met. 

Now that's "Gold Plated" -- why they excluded other professions, I have no idea or why they thought these professions deserved this amazing perk
At least that got closed up as it was an exceedingly divisive system

Andy_L

JamoLew said:

Nurses, midwives, health visitors, physiotherapists and mental health officers in the 1995 Section and in post on or before 6 March 1995 (which we describe as having ‘Special Class Status’) have the right to retire from a Normal Pension Age of 55 without a reduction applied to their pension, subject to certain criteria being met. 

Now that's "Gold Plated" -- why they excluded other professions, I have no idea or why they thought these professions deserved this amazing perk
At least that got closed up as it was an exceedingly divisive system

"Special Class (SC) status is a legacy provision within the 1995 section of the NHS Pension scheme and is primarily available to eligible members of staff who are engaged in pensionable employment as a nurse, physiotherapist, midwife or health visitor. SC status allowed the member to retire at age 55 without a reduction to their benefits.
It is a continuation of the arrangements which existed under the Local Government Act 1937 before the start of the NHS in 1948.
It was given in recognition of the arduous nature of the duties undertaken and to compensate for the personal stress and strain encountered by certain grades of staff."

I suspect the other  AHP-type professions were excluded because they didn't exist when the scheme rules were written.

jimi_man

JamoLew said:

Nurses, midwives, health visitors, physiotherapists and mental health officers in the 1995 Section and in post on or before 6 March 1995 (which we describe as having ‘Special Class Status’) have the right to retire from a Normal Pension Age of 55 without a reduction applied to their pension, subject to certain criteria being met. 

Now that's "Gold Plated" -- why they excluded other professions, I have no idea or why they thought these professions deserved this amazing perk
At least that got closed up as it was an exceedingly divisive system

That must make the police pension - platinum plated with diamond crusts! 

JamoLew

Andy_L said:

I suspect the other  AHP-type professions were excluded because they didn't exist when the scheme rules were written.

I suspect so, hence why the provision was removed not because other roles are any less demanding etc etc

Aranyani

JamoLew said:

Andy_L said:

I suspect the other  AHP-type professions were excluded because they didn't exist when the scheme rules were written.

I suspect so, hence why the provision was removed not because other roles are any less demanding etc etc

I'd argue that dietetics, podiatry or speech and language therapy are less physically demanding than nursing or physio.  OT and ODP are not. 

JamoLew

Aranyani said:

JamoLew said:

Andy_L said:

I suspect the other  AHP-type professions were excluded because they didn't exist when the scheme rules were written.

I suspect so, hence why the provision was removed not because other roles are any less demanding etc etc

I'd argue that dietetics, podiatry or speech and language therapy are less physically demanding than nursing or physio.  OT and ODP are not. 

Quite possibly so - although I don't have much knowledge of those particular fields 

Much better to just get rid than have the haves and have nots

Aranyani

JamoLew said:

Aranyani said:

JamoLew said:

Andy_L said:

I suspect the other  AHP-type professions were excluded because they didn't exist when the scheme rules were written.

I suspect so, hence why the provision was removed not because other roles are any less demanding etc etc

I'd argue that dietetics, podiatry or speech and language therapy are less physically demanding than nursing or physio.  OT and ODP are not. 

Quite possibly so - although I don't have much knowledge of those particular fields 

Much better to just get rid than have the haves and have nots

I'd question how realistic it is to expect people to stay in front line nursing till they are 68.  That's why the police and fire service allow earlier retirement too, the physical demands and decades of shift work take a physical toll. 

JamoLew

Aranyani said:

JamoLew said:

Aranyani said:

JamoLew said:

Andy_L said:

I suspect the other  AHP-type professions were excluded because they didn't exist when the scheme rules were written.

I suspect so, hence why the provision was removed not because other roles are any less demanding etc etc

I'd argue that dietetics, podiatry or speech and language therapy are less physically demanding than nursing or physio.  OT and ODP are not. 

Quite possibly so - although I don't have much knowledge of those particular fields 

Much better to just get rid than have the haves and have nots

I'd question how realistic it is to expect people to stay in front line nursing till they are 68.  That's why the police and fire service allow earlier retirement too, the physical demands and decades of shift work take a physical toll. 

yes - but its not just Nursing that experiences decades of physical and mental demands.
My role when i started was actually classed as more physical than a Nurses back in the 90s and my current role is massively mentally demanding.

Surely after 30+ years dealing with hazardous substances should allow me to retire at 55 as well then (I started work in 1989)

Arguably, the physical nature of most hospital roles has been mostly eradicated with Lifting & Handling regulations etc

Is this modern era - surely we should be encouraging harmony and equality rather than causing further rifts between roles and professions (after all, under AfC my hours got increased from 35 to 37.5 a week to fall in line with Nurses)

Aranyani

JamoLew said:

Aranyani said:

JamoLew said:

Aranyani said:

JamoLew said:

Andy_L said:

I suspect the other  AHP-type professions were excluded because they didn't exist when the scheme rules were written.

I suspect so, hence why the provision was removed not because other roles are any less demanding etc etc

I'd argue that dietetics, podiatry or speech and language therapy are less physically demanding than nursing or physio.  OT and ODP are not. 

Quite possibly so - although I don't have much knowledge of those particular fields 

Much better to just get rid than have the haves and have nots

I'd question how realistic it is to expect people to stay in front line nursing till they are 68.  That's why the police and fire service allow earlier retirement too, the physical demands and decades of shift work take a physical toll. 

yes - but its not just Nursing that experiences decades of physical and mental demands.
Arguably, the physical nature of most hospital roles has been mostly eradicated with Lifting & Handling regulations etc

Its still a very physically demanding job, long days on their feet, regular night shifts with rapid turnarounds. 

I agree that there are lots of other jobs that are in a similar boat, but I think that means they should also be able to finish a bit earlier (if its some kind of public service, key worker role anyway) rather than everybody being expected to work till they drop! 

ToxicWomble

It’s difficult imagining myself being able to physically and mentally do my job at 65 as well as I do it now - I have no doubt that many many private sector workers think exactly the same as well