A smart meter is waiting for me

The_Green_Hornet

tenchy said:

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I've now had another reminder from EDF, this time in the post. Are there any long-term refuseniks out there? How did it pan out? Do they just give up in the end?

From my experience with Scottish Power & ESB Energy, they only give up once you switch away from them.

[Deleted User]

The_Green_Hornet said:

tenchy said:

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I've now had another reminder from EDF, this time in the post. Are there any long-term refuseniks out there? How did it pan out? Do they just give up in the end?

From my experience with Scottish Power & ESB Energy, they only give up once you switch away from them.

Suppliers are encouraged by Ofgem to re-engage with their customers:

Quote: While consumers are not obliged to accept a smart meter, where a customer has not yet taken up the offer to have one installed, suppliers should consider appropriate re-contact strategies based on customers’ preferences, contact history and reasons for not previously accepting a smart meter. unquote

Ant555

tenchy said:

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I've now had another reminder from EDF, this time in the post. Are there any long-term refuseniks out there? How did it pan out? Do they just give up in the end?

What Tarrif are you on?  I just logged on to my online EDF account and if I click on the 'Tariff Details' button on the left I see the following....

Signing up to this tariff means you are agreeing to have a Smart meter fitted. If you decide you don’t want one, you will have the option to opt out at a later date

tenchy

[Deleted User] said:

The_Green_Hornet said:

tenchy said:

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I've now had another reminder from EDF, this time in the post. Are there any long-term refuseniks out there? How did it pan out? Do they just give up in the end?

From my experience with Scottish Power & ESB Energy, they only give up once you switch away from them.

Suppliers are encouraged by Ofgem to re-engage with their customers:

Quote: While consumers are not obliged to accept a smart meter, where a customer has not yet taken up the offer to have one installed, suppliers should consider appropriate re-contact strategies based on customers’ preferences, contact history and reasons for not previously accepting a smart meter. unquote

Thanks. Looks like I can just keep ignoring them then.

tenchy

Ant555 said:

tenchy said:

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I've now had another reminder from EDF, this time in the post. Are there any long-term refuseniks out there? How did it pan out? Do they just give up in the end?

What Tarrif are you on?  I just logged on to my online EDF account and if I click on the 'Tariff Details' button on the left I see the following....

Signing up to this tariff means you are agreeing to have a Smart meter fitted. If you decide you don’t want one, you will have the option to opt out at a later date

I'm on a similar tariff. It's called 'Online ..  something or other' and I did agree as part of the sign up to take a smart meter. However, I still have a copy of the online chat dialogue where I was told that I was not obliged to take one. My tariff is up for renewal in April so it will be interesting to see what happens if I select a similar one. Might they say, "sorry, you can only go on this tariff AFTER we've fitted your SM. 

Zellah

tenchy said:

Ant555 said:

tenchy said:

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I've now had another reminder from EDF, this time in the post. Are there any long-term refuseniks out there? How did it pan out? Do they just give up in the end?

What Tarrif are you on?  I just logged on to my online EDF account and if I click on the 'Tariff Details' button on the left I see the following....

Signing up to this tariff means you are agreeing to have a Smart meter fitted. If you decide you don’t want one, you will have the option to opt out at a later date

I'm on a similar tariff. It's called 'Online ..  something or other' and I did agree as part of the sign up to take a smart meter. However, I still have a copy of the online chat dialogue where I was told that I was not obliged to take one. My tariff is up for renewal in April so it will be interesting to see what happens if I select a similar one. Might they say, "sorry, you can only go on this tariff AFTER we've fitted your SM. 

Why not get smart meters installed, put away the IHD in the cupboard (or set it on fire if you're feeling brave) and still give manual readings? You can then pretend you have regular meters and you'll never get bothered by EDF or any other supplier again. Simple solution!

coffeehound

Zellah said:
Why not get smart meters installed, 

Aside from the hassles already mentioned, loss of continuity of supply is quite a good reason.  Load shedding by switching off consumers' electricity is already a thing in other countries.  In some areas of the southern states, home aircon units have a switch so that TPTB can control when and for how long citizens may use their own equipment.  

With the UK banning new gas installs, stoves, and internal combustion vehicles while increasingly powering the country from solar panels and windmills, power shortages loom large in our future.  And guess who will have their power cut while seeing their neighbours enjoying an uninterrupted supply?

Chino

coffeehound said:

Aside from the hassles already mentioned, loss of continuity of supply is quite a good reason.

Suppliers will also take advantage of the widespread deployment of smart meters to introduce dynamically-priced tariffs with higher energy prices at times of peak demand, for example in the mornings when people are getting up and in the evenings when people are cooking, etc. Those consumers who don't already have smart meters will then be "encouraged" to take one by suppliers introducing tariffs for non-smart meter households which are even more expensive than their dynamically-priced tariffs.

mac.d

tenchy said:

I'm on a similar tariff. It's called 'Online ..  something or other' and I did agree as part of the sign up to take a smart meter. However, I still have a copy of the online chat dialogue where I was told that I was not obliged to take one. My tariff is up for renewal in April so it will be interesting to see what happens if I select a similar one. Might they say, "sorry, you can only go on this tariff AFTER we've fitted your SM. 

If the terms of that tariff said you need to agree to a smart meter, while you may have a chat dialogue saying you are not obliged to take one, be aware that EDF are also not obliged to keep you on the same tariff and can move you onto another probably more expensive one where smart meters are not required.

Sorcerer2018

The_Fat_Controller said:

Did you actually read the Terms and Conditions of your tariff ?
They could change you to a different tariff if they cannot update your meter.
Smart Meters are great, no more faffing about doing your own readings, accurate bills and a dinky little IHD which you can use if you want to.

LOL, my provider can't read my smart meter, i have to do manual readings every quater. And the tariff is always wrong, and they can't correct it, so it also show the wrong amounts. And i have an ever increased number of smart hub boxes sitting in my garage.