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A smart meter is waiting for me

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  • tenchy
    tenchy Posts: 486 Forumite
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    One of the (failed) companies I was with, sent me repeated emails via a third party, re my "agreed" install of a smart meter. I replied to each email declining the offer as the tariff I was on ,had no stipulation re smart install. They tried via phone as well. 
    EVEN AFTER the supplier had failed and I had transferred to the SOLR, they were STILL trying to make an appointment!!
    I've just had another email from EDF, so two in as many days. I'll unsubscribe them if it keeps up. Of course I never disclose phone numbers to energy suppliers, so at least I won't have that hassle. I don't get this smart meter stuff from the point of view of the consumer. I pay by DD, read the meters once every three months, if that (it may be only once every six months), and have no other interaction with the supplier other than checking a statement once a year. If I want to save energy I'll switch something off. Who sits watching a power display in the kitchen for heaven's sake! Smart meters are for energy train-spotters. The rest of us don't need them.
  • JohnB47
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    @JohnB47, please explain the hassle.
    It's just a meter with a radio connection to a network.
    You can still take a reading whenever you want, or even better, use the IHD to see it from the comfort of your sofa.

    It's a hassle when:
    1. It doesn't work from the outset, meaning taking manual readings is more difficult. Then the supplier can't or won't fix it.
    2. It works until you change supplier, then you are back to worse than square one 
    Have you read none of the threads complaining about the mess having smart meters causes?
  • Zellah
    Zellah Posts: 303 Forumite
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    edited 6 November 2020 at 6:53PM
    JohnB47 said:
    @JohnB47, please explain the hassle.
    It's just a meter with a radio connection to a network.
    You can still take a reading whenever you want, or even better, use the IHD to see it from the comfort of your sofa.

    It's a hassle when:
    1. It doesn't work from the outset, meaning taking manual readings is more difficult. Then the supplier can't or won't fix it.
    2. It works until you change supplier, then you are back to worse than square one 
    Have you read none of the threads complaining about the mess having smart meters causes?
    Wakey Wakey! Smets2 meters have largely fixed the above issues. 
  • dreamypuma
    dreamypuma Posts: 1,352 Forumite
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    edited 6 November 2020 at 9:51PM
    JohnB47 said:
    @JohnB47, please explain the hassle.
    It's just a meter with a radio connection to a network.
    You can still take a reading whenever you want, or even better, use the IHD to see it from the comfort of your sofa.

    It's a hassle when:
    1. It doesn't work from the outset, meaning taking manual readings is more difficult. Then the supplier can't or won't fix it.
    2. It works until you change supplier, then you are back to worse than square one 
    Have you read none of the threads complaining about the mess having smart meters causes?
    Don't forget the 5g's...and the Covid. Then the government tracking as well. The buggers will just turn your power off mid Emmerdale.

    Get real. When you look at the complaints on this forum about smart meters, most negativity comes from the legacy of older smart meters. Not SMETS 2. This alongside the way that these have been forced upon people seems to have alienated users and generated resentment of smart meters.

    Yes the original smart meters were a waste of money, and a burden that the consumer will have to bare. But alas we don't have a Deloreans.

    For every complaint on here about SMETS 2 meter, there's probably 100's of happy users.

    Problems always look worse when you view them through a magnifying glass. 

    For people that can't work out that there is zero correlation between kWh usage and their direct debits Smart meter are a good thing.

    For those of you savy enough to understand kWh usage and manage your usage / accounts accordingly, throw away your IHD and periodically check your readings. 

    * Sorry for my use of the word "Pleb" I have edited my post and removed.
    My farts hospitalize small children :o
  • JC_Derby
    JC_Derby Posts: 818 Forumite
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    @JohnB47, please explain the hassle.
    It's just a meter with a radio connection to a network.
    You can still take a reading whenever you want, or even better, use the IHD to see it from the comfort of your sofa.

    How about waiting for appointments that don’t happen....waiting for an installer that you know isnt going to install the meter....having to go off, whilst the meter is fitted.
  • Zellah
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    tenchy said:
    One of the (failed) companies I was with, sent me repeated emails via a third party, re my "agreed" install of a smart meter. I replied to each email declining the offer as the tariff I was on ,had no stipulation re smart install. They tried via phone as well. 
    EVEN AFTER the supplier had failed and I had transferred to the SOLR, they were STILL trying to make an appointment!!
    I've just had another email from EDF, so two in as many days. I'll unsubscribe them if it keeps up. Of course I never disclose phone numbers to energy suppliers, so at least I won't have that hassle. I don't get this smart meter stuff from the point of view of the consumer. I pay by DD, read the meters once every three months, if that (it may be only once every six months), and have no other interaction with the supplier other than checking a statement once a year. If I want to save energy I'll switch something off. Who sits watching a power display in the kitchen for heaven's sake! Smart meters are for energy train-spotters. The rest of us don't need them.
    Why don't you ask EDF to put you on a non smart meter tariff? Simple solution.
  • t0rt0ise
    t0rt0ise Posts: 4,525 Forumite
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    Receiving, as I am, letters from a company who doesn't supply my electricity, threatening to change the smart meter that I haven't got, to a prepaid meter, it does rather make me think what my actual supplier could do in error if I had a smart meter. Once a mistake is made it's really difficult to get them to correct.
  • tenchy
    tenchy Posts: 486 Forumite
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    Zellah said:
    tenchy said:
    One of the (failed) companies I was with, sent me repeated emails via a third party, re my "agreed" install of a smart meter. I replied to each email declining the offer as the tariff I was on ,had no stipulation re smart install. They tried via phone as well. 
    EVEN AFTER the supplier had failed and I had transferred to the SOLR, they were STILL trying to make an appointment!!
    I've just had another email from EDF, so two in as many days. I'll unsubscribe them if it keeps up. Of course I never disclose phone numbers to energy suppliers, so at least I won't have that hassle. I don't get this smart meter stuff from the point of view of the consumer. I pay by DD, read the meters once every three months, if that (it may be only once every six months), and have no other interaction with the supplier other than checking a statement once a year. If I want to save energy I'll switch something off. Who sits watching a power display in the kitchen for heaven's sake! Smart meters are for energy train-spotters. The rest of us don't need them.
    Why don't you ask EDF to put you on a non smart meter tariff? Simple solution.
    Because the sneaky gits have imposed a smart meter (when available) condition on their best tariff. The other tariffs are rubbish. I like EDF because they don't report you to the credit reference agencies, which is obviously a bonus, but if they get stroppy about the 'smart' meter rubbish I'll go elsewhere. 
  • Neil_Jones
    Neil_Jones Posts: 9,677 Forumite
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    edited 7 November 2020 at 10:38PM
    My current electricity provider's chosen contractor for smart meters (Magnum Utilties) kept contacting me and phoned about four times in the space of one week a short while after I joined the supplier and followed it up with an email.  As I didn't even know they were doing it on my suppliers behalf (there is no mention in the paraphernalia of Magnum or "you must have a smart meter" when I signed up) I just ignored the first call as I didn't recognise the number, and then I eventually blocked it after the third attempt.  My phone pings if a blocked number tries to call but it doesn't ring but they still try on occasion.  Every time the meter reader turns up its "do you want a smart meter", "no thanks", "why?"  "because I don't want one"  "need more details please?" "just don't want want one, simple as."  "oh, okay, thanks, bye".

    I wouldn't mind but I was asked six suppliers ago if I wanted a smart meter and I said no then to them, presumably this doesn't cascade down when you switch around?  Course it doesn't, that's too easy :)
  • tenchy
    tenchy Posts: 486 Forumite
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    Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I've now had another reminder from EDF, this time in the post. Are there any long-term refuseniks out there? How did it pan out? Do they just give up in the end?
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