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I received a PCN for my work hire vehicle.

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    You use ''I'' but you simply tell them to please transfer liability so that you can appeal this and take responsibility for it as HIRER/LESSEE.
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  • Hi, today I have received my "Parking Charge Notice to Hirer" for breaking the condition "Failure to Pay for Duration of Stay". Do I now forward this template: "I am the hirer/keeper of the above vehicle and am in receipt of the PCN you issued. I have no liability on this matter as you have failed to meet the requirements of Schedule 4 of The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 namely, but not limited to, failing to supply the additional documents mandated by section 14 (2) (a) of the Act. You cannot therefore transfer liability from the driver at the time to me, the hirer keeper.."

    Thank you
  • Redx
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    edited 2 November 2020 at 2:45PM
    You are not forwarding anything at all !!

    You use that template to appeal as hirer , usually on the website of the parking company

    Can we presume they have failed POFA , not included hire documentation etc ??
  • Fruitcake
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    As above, appeal as hirer/lessee using the relevant edna basher template.
    If the scammers have failed to comply with paragraphs 13 and 14 of the PoFA then add a one liner to that effect, meaning you as hirer/lessee are not liable and the charge should be cancelled. 
    If it is rejected, then make a hirer/lessee PoPLA appeal using all the relevant appeal points available to you, and post your draft here for checking before you submit it.
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  • Umkomaas
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    you have failed to meet the requirements of Schedule 4 of The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 namely, but not limited to, failing to supply the additional documents mandated by section 14 (2) (a) of the Act.
    Only if they have in fact failed in the supply of the necessary documentation. Please confirm. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • hi this is the letter they sent me which I have pixellated and cropped. This was the only document I had received. 

    So carry on following the Edna Basher post and follow her steps to reply to this PCN? 
  • Le_Kirk
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    hi this is the letter they sent me which I have pixelated and cropped. This was the only document I had received. 
    So carry on following the Edna Basher post and follow her steps to reply to this PCN? 
    Yes, use the most appropriate one to your circumstances.  Did the NTH include all the documents required to be sent to you according to POFA?  See paragraph 13(2) b & c.
  • Redx
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    Believe it or not , Edna is a he , him , male person

    But yes , follow his advice , read the popla decisions thread backwards from the last page , find a hirer Popla appeal that won , use as much as you can from it , changing it to suit your case , so change locations or descriptions etc , to make it factually correct , but not implying who was driving

    Read what was said above about those missing documents , the driver has not been identified , etc
  • Also, why do they witter on about Penalty charges, NIP and speeding? Idiots. 
    I think you just answered your own question, @nosferatu1001
  • Le_Kirk said:
    hi this is the letter they sent me which I have pixelated and cropped. This was the only document I had received. 
    So carry on following the Edna Basher post and follow her steps to reply to this PCN? 
    Yes, use the most appropriate one to your circumstances.  Did the NTH include all the documents required to be sent to you according to POFA?  See paragraph 13(2) b & c.
    No documents just the letter. As I mentioned before the hiring of the vehicle is handled by a transport department, passed onto my manager in another department who passes it onto a supervisor who passes it on to me, so I don't even know how they would come up with the documents so maybe that works in my favour(?).
    Shall I email my response to the PCN or mail it in? I've set up a seperate email account to deal with Gemini.


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