ParkingEye parking charge for 5mins in Lido Car Park 2, Margate

Umkomaas

Don't hang up the cagoule just yet Misty! 😄 ☔️ 

D_P_Dance

The small print on that sign is horrendous, who in their right mind would read all that on a cold blustery day?  Read this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5972164/parking-eye-signs-oxford-road-reading

MistyZ

Ooops!  No worries.  I'll go back tomorrow.  Is it the top one on the right of the photo ?  If so the entrance is the same, is that correct?  

Hang on ... I think it's probably what I thought was an exit.  Anyway, enlighten me as best you can & I'll try to take my brain with me tomorrow.

1annoyed

Thanks MistyZ, yes the white van on the right is parked in Lido 2 carpark.  Whilst they look joined they are actually separate with separate entrances.
See picture below of the entrance on a article I found online.
Thanks so much for your help.

MistyZ

Thanks for clarifying OP.

MistyZ

https://imgur.com/a/cAxGM3a

Is this link working for others 'cos it isn't for me?  C-m comments on photos in post below but not sure if she used this one.

Assuming it does work OP, walking round this car park it is obvious that motorists can also use the other entrance - the photos of that in yesterday's link are therefore relevant too.  Neither entrance is well-signposted.  

The car park is in a terrible state of repair.  I have more photos showing some impressive potholes and would be tempted to include those as an add-on in the appeal to show why no savvy motorist would decide to stay there once they'd had a look around.  Shout if you want them. 

Coupon-mad

Good photos Misty. 

OP (please don't ask what OP is on a forum) have you already submitted your POPLA appeal though?

Even if you lose, you do realise not to pay this?  Search the forum for POPLA lost...saves us repeating ourselves yet again!

An urgent task – deadline is MONDAY!  

YOU ARE GOING TO WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT CONSIDERATION AND GRACE PERIODS, PLUS THE AMOUNT OF THE PARKING CHARGE.

Please now make a real difference because not enough people have yet, and time is running out. 

The Government is consulting for just a few more days, about a new statutory code of practice (CoP) and framework intended to rein in the rogue parking firms. 

Does it go far enough?  Read and comment on the draft CoP proposal and the enforcement framework consultation (two separate consultation documents).

HOW TO DO THE SUBMISSIONS:

BSI PAS 232 – COMMENTING ON THE CODE OF PRACTICE AS DRAFTED :

1.    You will need to register then log in, to comment on the CoP and enter an occupation even if you are retired or a homemaker.  

 

2.    Register, log into the BSI page, and download & read the cover letter here:

https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2020-00193#/section

 

3.    Read the cover letter again and note the suggested extra questions... if you agree that, say, the 'loading/unloading and dropping off, asking for directions, and disabled people parking on double yellows as they can on street' activities listed should be exempt (not parking events, what do you think?) then please go to the Annexes at the end of the PAS Code and find the one about Exempt Vehicles and state what other activity you think should be added to the exempt list. 

 

4.    Download the PAS itself and start commenting on what you wish to say something about.  Quick links to each section appear on the left of your page. 

 

You don’t have to comment on everything, e.g. you might want to skip the definitions and focus on later sections, and certainly look at the Annex tables at the end that show things like consideration & grace periods and exemptions.

 

5.    Submit comments when you are happy with them. Don’t just ‘SAVE’ and forget!

 

THAT IS HALF THE JOB DONE!

THE MHCLG CONSULTATION IS EASIER AS IT IS JUST A LIST OF QUESTIONS. 

 

6.    You can do it first if preferred or pushed for time:

https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=EGg0v32c3kOociSi7zmVqAVPfAOtwRxLhHRwQ610oElUMzhQSVo0WUQ4SERVSEZaUU9DTUhFQ1VMUy4u

If your answers exceed 4000 characters (approx. 500 words to a single question or 16000 words (approx. 2500 words) for all the questions below, you can email your answers to parking@communities.gov.uk as long as you state who you are.

 

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU WILL SEE, FOR RESPONSES TO THE FRAMEWORK:

Q1 Do you agree or disagree that members of APAs should be required to use a single appeals service appointed by the Secretary of State?

Strongly agree/Somewhat agree/Neither agree nor disagree/Somewhat disagree/Strongly disagree

 

Q1.1 Please explain your answer

(free text)

 

 

Q2 Please provide any other feedback on the determination of appeals, including the funding model and features that an appeal service should offer e.g. telephone or in-person hearings, the ability to submit evidence online

(free text)

 

Q3 Please provide any comments you have on the proposal to enforce the Code by combining the ATA’s existing audit procedures with additional safeguards.

(free text)

 

Q4 Please outline any alternative means by which the Code could be monitored and enforced. You may wish to cite evidence from other regulatory frameworks which are relevant.

(free text)

 

Q5 Please provide any feedback you have on the proposed governance arrangements for monitoring the new Code of Practice

(free text)

 

Q6 Which parking charge system is most appropriate for private parking?

 a) the Three-tiered system

 b) Mirroring the Local Authority system

(free text)

 

 Q6.1 Please explain your answer. You may, for example, wish to make reference to other deterrent frameworks (for example, for railway tickets or traffic violations)

(free text)

 

 

Q7 What level of discount is appropriate:

40% as is currently offered in private parking and suggested in the three-tiered system, or

50% as is offered in Local Authority parking?

a) 40%

b) 50%

 

Q7.1 Please explain your answer, including whether the discount should be set at a different level

(free text)

 

 

 Q8 How should the level of parking charges be set and how should the levels be revised in future?

(free text)

 

 

Q9 Do you agree or disagree in principle with the idea of the Appeals Charter?

Agree/Disagree

 

Q9.1 Please explain your answer

(free text)

 

 

Q10 Do you agree or not that the examples given in the Appeals Charter are fair and appropriate? Agree/Disagree

 

Q10.1 Please explain your answer.

You may wish, for example, to suggest additional cases to be covered in an Appeals Charter or query existing examples.

(free text)

 

Q11 Do you agree or disagree that the parking industry should contribute towards the cost of the regulation?

Agree/Disagree

 

Q11.1 Please explain your answer.

(free text)

 

YOU CAN INSTEAD GIVE MORE CONCISE ANSWERS ONLINE, USING THE MHCLG PAGE LINK.

Don’t forget that answering these questions is the easier bit…

Looking at the BSI PAS (the draft code of practice itself) involves logging in and submitting comments again, and again and again and takes more time!

There is a discussion about PAS submissions and what the pages look like, here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6195417/am-i-doing-something-wrong/p1

MistyZ

Plus 2 more that got lost:  
https://imgur.com/a/NdeWMPX

1annoyed

Thanks MistyZ, the link doesn't work for me, just opens a blank page on Imgur.  Are you able to do a dropbox link, or mail big file?

D_P_Dance

It works for me but why are you posting pictures of piglets, booby trapped Trump signs et al?