Landlord is selling his property and wants an estate agents to take photos

ameliarate

csgohan4 said:

ameliarate said:

This is terrible. The LL wants to sell the property to save his business and, for all you all know, to save jobs., and you are mostly advising the OP to make his life as difficult as possible. Instead of posting on here the OP should be out looking for another property to rent.
Anyone who rents knows well that they don’t own the property and that a LL can decide to sell up and I know that’s their home but advising people to make someone’s life difficult without knowing the LL side is dreadful IMO. 

nothing personal but business. The LL is acting the same. Another reason I wouldn't be a LL, Tenants can make your life difficult with no control over this at all. The government is giving more and more right to tenants now and in the future. 

I’m not sure the landlord is acting  the same,  they are not looking at ways to make the tenants life as difficult as possible, simply asking to sell their property. 

GDB2222

ameliarate said:

This is terrible. The LL wants to sell the property to save his business and, for all you all know, to save jobs., and you are mostly advising the OP to make his life as difficult as possible. Instead of posting on here the OP should be out looking for another property to rent.
Anyone who rents knows well that they don’t own the property and that a LL can decide to sell up and I know that’s their home but advising people to make someone’s life difficult without knowing the LL side is dreadful IMO. 

This is partly because it’s the tenant who asked, but also because this forum has a strong anti landlord bias. It’s not a one way street, and several people have suggested that the tenant helps out but asks for some incentive. 

hazyjo

ameliarate said:

csgohan4 said:

ameliarate said:

This is terrible. The LL wants to sell the property to save his business and, for all you all know, to save jobs., and you are mostly advising the OP to make his life as difficult as possible. Instead of posting on here the OP should be out looking for another property to rent.
Anyone who rents knows well that they don’t own the property and that a LL can decide to sell up and I know that’s their home but advising people to make someone’s life difficult without knowing the LL side is dreadful IMO. 

nothing personal but business. The LL is acting the same. Another reason I wouldn't be a LL, Tenants can make your life difficult with no control over this at all. The government is giving more and more right to tenants now and in the future. 

I’m not sure the landlord is acting  the same,  they are not looking at ways to make the tenants life as difficult as possible, simply asking to sell their property. 

While the tenants have a legal right to be there, it's their home/property.

You could reverse that to say the landlord is making the tenants' life unnecessarily difficult. They're entitled to "quiet enjoyment".

ameliarate

hazyjo said:

Nameliarate said:

csgohan4 said:

ameliarate said:

This is terrible. The LL wants to sell the property to save his business and, for all you all know, to save jobs., and you are mostly advising the OP to make his life as difficult as possible. Instead of posting on here the OP should be out looking for another property to rent.
Anyone who rents knows well that they don’t own the property and that a LL can decide to sell up and I know that’s their home but advising people to make someone’s life difficult without knowing the LL side is dreadful IMO. 

nothing personal but business. The LL is acting the same. Another reason I wouldn't be a LL, Tenants can make your life difficult with no control over this at all. The government is giving more and more right to tenants now and in the future. 

I’m not sure the landlord is acting  the same,  they are not looking at ways to make the tenants life as difficult as possible, simply asking to sell their property. 

While the tenants have a legal right to be there, it's their home/property.

You could reverse that to say the landlord is making the tenants' life unnecessarily difficult. They're entitled to "quiet enjoyment".

No you couldn’t argue that at all.he is making a reasonable request as he has to sell his property. If they don’t agree fair enough  he’ll have to wait until they leave but he’s not making things unnecessarily difficult 

hazyjo

We'll have to beg to differ.

AdrianC

csgohan4 said:
The government is giving more and more right to tenants now and in the future. 

Not "more rights".
The exact same rights... Valid notice, and only a court can actually terminate the tenancy.

hb2

The LL hasn't given proper notice so the simple fact is that the tenant doesn't have to move out. If the LL really needs to get the house sold, they will have to either sell with tenants (to another LL), or compensate the current tenant for being asked to surrender early.

GDB2222

AdrianC said:

csgohan4 said:
The government is giving more and more right to tenants now and in the future. 

Not "more rights".
The exact same rights... Valid notice, and only a court can actually terminate the tenancy.

Six months notice and lengthy delays in the court system = a major change in the balance. 

You can argue that that is long overdue, but I can remember the days when it was extremely difficult for landlords to get their property back, before ASTs. That resulted in very expensive rents, because of the risk. Landlords also were not prepared to let to ordinary UK residents. 

AdrianC

GDB2222 said:

AdrianC said:

csgohan4 said:
The government is giving more and more right to tenants now and in the future. 

Not "more rights".
The exact same rights... Valid notice, and only a court can actually terminate the tenancy.

Six months notice and lengthy delays in the court system = a major change in the balance.

Perhaps. But the fact is it's the same actual rights.

...but I can remember the days when it was extremely difficult for landlords to get their property back, before ASTs.

That was a third of a century ago.

GDB2222

I may be going gah gah but I can remember the 1980s. I’m just saying that there needs to be a balance between the needs of the landlord and tenant, or the end result is higher rents.