Been refused everything- now what?

68ComebackSpecial

Aranyani said:

Wow, yeah its interesting that this person thinks the state should be giving more money to families with high incomes who have more than enough to manage. 

I hope this isn't a case of a partner refusing to support his children and their mother.

You have no idea of where they live or the cost of their outgoings. £65k doesn't go very far at all if you live in the South East with the high cost of housing and where a Victorian 2 up, 2 down terrace can easily be 5 times more than in the North of the country.

poppy12345

68ComebackSpecial said:

Aranyani said:

Wow, yeah its interesting that this person thinks the state should be giving more money to families with high incomes who have more than enough to manage. 

I hope this isn't a case of a partner refusing to support his children and their mother.

You have no idea of where they live or the cost of their outgoings. £65k doesn't go very far at all if you live in the South East with the high cost of housing and where a Victorian 2 up, 2 down terrace can easily be 5 times more than in the North of the country.

Agreed, we don't but £65k is more than a lot of people have and claiming any means tested benefit depends on earnings recieved, not outgoings.

noitsnotme

poppy12345 said:

68ComebackSpecial said:

Aranyani said:

Wow, yeah its interesting that this person thinks the state should be giving more money to families with high incomes who have more than enough to manage. 

I hope this isn't a case of a partner refusing to support his children and their mother.

You have no idea of where they live or the cost of their outgoings. £65k doesn't go very far at all if you live in the South East with the high cost of housing and where a Victorian 2 up, 2 down terrace can easily be 5 times more than in the North of the country.

Agreed, we don't but £65k is more than a lot of people have and claiming any means tested benefit depends on earnings recieved, not outgoings.

I said something similar yesterday in a very non offensive way and my post has been deleted for some reason.

Aranyani

68ComebackSpecial said:

Aranyani said:

Wow, yeah its interesting that this person thinks the state should be giving more money to families with high incomes who have more than enough to manage. 

I hope this isn't a case of a partner refusing to support his children and their mother.

You have no idea of where they live or the cost of their outgoings. £65k doesn't go very far at all if you live in the South East with the high cost of housing and where a Victorian 2 up, 2 down terrace can easily be 5 times more than in the North of the country.

That salary means at least £3500 a month take home pay, even with high pension contributions. 

I know housing is more expensive in the South East, but that is still enough money to manage on without needing state support. 

There are thousands and thousands of families in the SE living on a hell of a lot less than that.

strawb_shortcake

Equally I'm not sure why someone needing or wanting to claim state benefits would be looking to take on additional new debt for a new kitchen and flooring.

epm-84

68ComebackSpecial said:

Aranyani said:

Wow, yeah its interesting that this person thinks the state should be giving more money to families with high incomes who have more than enough to manage. 

I hope this isn't a case of a partner refusing to support his children and their mother.

You have no idea of where they live or the cost of their outgoings. £65k doesn't go very far at all if you live in the South East with the high cost of housing and where a Victorian 2 up, 2 down terrace can easily be 5 times more than in the North of the country.

There's a lot of variance within the north.  Even if you just look at Cheshire, which is seen as one of the priciest parts of the north and pick one of the pricier areas within Cheshire like Wilmslow you can find relatively cheap houses for sale a short bus ride from the town, even though Wilmslow's a much pricier area than somewhere like Middlesbrough.

epm-84

annabanana82 said:

Equally I'm not sure why someone needing or wanting to claim state benefits would be looking to take on additional new debt for a new kitchen and flooring.

Unless it's in urgent need of replacement e.g. floor boards collapsing or appliances not working which can't be repaired, it's possibly evidence that the person in question doesn't need support because their household has more than enough money to live on.

P1

Charli159 said:

What do u do if u can’t get any help, no UC, no ESA, no trading profits first year of Self employment?

Sorry to hear that.  I managed to qualify for JAS for a grand £74 a week since May.  Its !!!!!! all really but may help so try and apply.  My £74 a week expires in November and then I am on £0.  What a stupid country we've become! 

At times like this I like to think of a quote from Henry Ford
 "It is well enough that the people do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning"

epm-84

P1 said:

Charli159 said:

What do u do if u can’t get any help, no UC, no ESA, no trading profits first year of Self employment?

Sorry to hear that.  I managed to qualify for JAS for a grand £74 a week since May.  Its !!!!!! all really but may help so try and apply.  My £74 a week expires in November and then I am on £0.  What a stupid country we've become!  

Looks like Charli159 has deleted her account due to people questioning why (in another thread) she said her partner earns £65k and they are currently planning to spend thousands on a new kitchen, while at the same time questioning why the state won't support her for not working.

In any case JSA wouldn't be applicable in this case because she wouldn't have been credited with enough NI contributions while being self employed.

Personally I think JSA should be based on how many years contributions you have in total and how many times you've applied in the past, otherwise you could have 30 years contributions and never claimed benefits but you still only get 26 weeks of JSA.  In your case @P1 you might be able to apply again in Feb/March next year, if you're still unemployed, due to the new benefit year and it being 13 weeks since your last claim.  This is because your current claim would have been based on the 18/19 and 17/18 tax years but you can do a new claim based on the 19/20 and 18/19 tax years.

P1

Thanks for that epm-84.  I do have a job interview coming and other applications lined up along with some training courses.  Latter getting delayed blatantly due to covid numbers.  It was obvious this would happen and is what it is.  425765 according to recent numbers