FreeHolder not allowing installation of Fiber Optics at the Property

molerat

prasadk30 said:

Yes it is a building (or MDU). So I understand that there is nothing much I can do to make them let HO install in the building?? HO did say that they wont touch OFNLs equipments but there was a stern "NO" from the directors. and yes I totally agreed those idiots did receive a nice brown bag for their effort. btw I read the below article last night about initiatives from the government. Does this change anything at all? 
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2019/10/new-uk-rules-to-spread-gigabit-broadband-into-big-buildings.html  

That is more about allowing access to install a full fibre service.  You already have that facility. What you need is the government to force all network providers to allow other ISPs access to their networks just as Openreach have to allow everyone access to theirs.

prasadk30

thank you guys, loved the overwhelming response! (and I actually though would anyone bother to respond here to my Q!). And I agree that many would love to be in my shoe and as I am not complaining about the money either so downgrading to lower speed to save money is out of question. My point is why settle for less when the world around me to going for a much faster speed. if the adjacent building (which are also Barratt properties) decided to let HO in why does my landlord have any issue? In fact there is a major push from the government to get UK on faster optic fiber so why do I need to compromise? I sympathise those who are on a lower bandwith, but assuming you have the option to upgrade would you rather not?  I think I am back to my original Q, can anything be done to get Freeholders to let HO install their equipments!? 

matelodave

You could try taking them to court if you feel strongly enough about it but I guess it would cost you a lot  without any guarantee of winning.
In the end if it's your landord's property and generally, providing it's legal, he can do what he wants and impose whatever restrictions he sees fit. I can see that he probably doesn't want others coming round and digging up the site or nailing cables all over the place, likewise why should the incumbent infrastructure provider allow others to use their fibres especially if they've paid to install them.
If you don't like it then you have the opportunity to move somewhere else.

Takmon

prasadk30 said:

thank you guys, loved the overwhelming response! (and I actually though would anyone bother to respond here to my Q!). And I agree that many would love to be in my shoe and as I am not complaining about the money either so downgrading to lower speed to save money is out of question. My point is why settle for less when the world around me to going for a much faster speed. if the adjacent building (which are also Barratt properties) decided to let HO in why does my landlord have any issue? In fact there is a major push from the government to get UK on faster optic fiber so why do I need to compromise? I sympathise those who are on a lower bandwith, but assuming you have the option to upgrade would you rather not?  I think I am back to my original Q, can anything be done to get Freeholders to let HO install their equipments!? 

The company you use now still use Fibre Optic so I don't see why they can't offer a faster speed using your current connection, have you looked into this?

Highland76

prasadk30 said:

thank you guys, loved the overwhelming response! (and I actually though would anyone bother to respond here to my Q!). And I agree that many would love to be in my shoe and as I am not complaining about the money either so downgrading to lower speed to save money is out of question. My point is why settle for less when the world around me to going for a much faster speed. if the adjacent building (which are also Barratt properties) decided to let HO in why does my landlord have any issue? In fact there is a major push from the government to get UK on faster optic fiber so why do I need to compromise? I sympathise those who are on a lower bandwith, but assuming you have the option to upgrade would you rather not?  I think I am back to my original Q, can anything be done to get Freeholders to let HO install their equipments!? 

So why don't you upgrade from 120 Mbps to 360 Mbps with your current ISP?
https://www.seethelight.co.uk/broadband
Most people on here will agree that 360 mbps is still a very fast speed and you won't get much sympathy if you think that's a poor speed for residential use. However if you have a genuine need for faster speeds (eg business use) then some of the other ISPs using the OFNL FTTP network offer up to 1 Gig. 

Highland76

prasadk30 said:

 can anything be done to get Freeholders to let HO install their equipments!? 

Short of kidnapping the freeholders at gunpoint, no. If the freeholders won't give HO permission then there's diddly squat you can do. I'm afraid you're 'stuck' with OFNL FTTP.

prasadk30

well the Q is not about why dont I upgrade to 360Mbps and pay more. The question is why would I pay more to get I service I would get for much less should I wish to change. if OFNL offers me 500mb for £30 odd I am happy to stick with them. My only stand is "why compromise"? The freeholder has taken a stand (whatever could be the reason : conflict of interest, kickbacks etc, or they genuinely dont want drilling in the building, I dont know as they dont give a reason!). All I wanted to know was can I (as owner of the flat) do anything about the issue and I get the feeling that I cant. (unless I drag them to the court, which honestly I dont intend (and cant afford) to!). Again I appreciate there will be no sympathy whatsoever here but lets face it, for the money that you are paying if someone offers you 4 times the speed would you take it, or decline saying you would rather settle for a slower speed as it meets your requirement ??! (again, appreciate all the comments/ feeback!)

Highland76

prasadk30 said:

 The question is why would I pay more to get I service I would get for much less should I wish to change.

So your beef with your current FTTP supplier is cost. I'm afraid that's a fact of life, not everything costs the same with different vendors. However if super fast broadband at bargain basement prices was very important to you, then perhaps you should have considered this BEFORE buying your property? Or maybe sell your property and move elsewhere where Hyperoptic is already available?

prasadk30

well Highland76, you still dont get my point but I cant help if you are happy to compromise and settle for less in your life! thats your choice and I am happy for you. Let me put it another way (but tbh reading your comments now am sure you still dont get my point!). Hypothetically,  you are offered a Fiat punto for £8k and for a same price a Ferarri (pick model of your choice!). But you landlord says you can only park Punto not the Ferarri in the parking. What is your take on that ? ( I am sure you will opt for Punto, who would want a Ferarri isnt it ? congrats on your choice!)    p.s (try reading my comments before passing yours- I have made it clear "And I agree that many would love to be in my shoe and as I am not complaining about the money either so downgrading to lower speed to save money is out of question")

Highland76

I do get your point, loud and clear. You want to know why you can’t get a faster & cheaper FTTP service with Hyperoptic - despite already having FTTP at a reasonable price from OFNL.  It’s the same reason why millions of others living in flats can’t also get Hyperoptic. Quit whinging and accept that you’re in a very fortunate position already. Yes lots of us would love FTTP at bargain basement prices but this doesn’t mean it’s going to happen everywhere.