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Are ISA's really worth it.

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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 121,118 Forumite
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    So Gadfium what has been the approx return on S&S ISA's in recent times please?

    There are around 30,000 conventional investment options you can hold in an S&S ISA and a near infiniate number of variations.

    Returns will be based on the assets used.

    A broadly cautious to medium risk spread (which is where the average UK consumer is) would be around 5-6% a year average over the long term.



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  • Aceace
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    I have a diversified portfolio of IFISAs that have returned an annualised 8% over the past two years. I'm glad that they were ISA wrapped.
  • GazzaBloom
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    edited 11 September 2020 at 8:53AM
    72% gain in my S&S ISA so far this year. I put a lump sum in from last year's allowance in the middle of March at the bottom of the dip and split it 50/50 across 2 mutual funds: Baillie Gifford American B/Polar Capital Global Technology.
  • sausage_time
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    I have a Virgin cash ISA paying 2.0% fixed for another 2 years.   For me, worth it (for now).
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  • Still a good option for cash holdings for additional rate taxpayers... although of course that's a fairly small niche!
  • Ifts
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    edited 12 September 2020 at 9:23PM
    Some of the benefits of using the S&S ISA wrapper:
    • No capital gains tax
    • No tax on dividends
    • No record keeping
    • Can benefit from Additional Permitted Subscription
    Never let the perfume of the premium overpower the odour of the risk
  • Is there a reason why most (if not all) banks and bldg. soc's have reduced the rate of interest paid from cash ISA accounts to well below that of their similar non-ISA account offerings?
  • garmeg
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    dogfonos said:
    Is there a reason why most (if not all) banks and bldg. soc's have reduced the rate of interest paid from cash ISA accounts to well below that of their similar non-ISA account offerings?
    Profiteering. There isn't that much extra admin with these accounts to call it anything else. Hence why I just use S&S ISAs as cash ISAs are not worth the bother frankly.
  • schiff
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    All my cash accounts are earning around 2% on average. I've got a few thousand in a Cash ISA that once earned a decent rate. Its rate now is 0.75% which is worth to me (grossed up) 0.9375%. Not far from the lowest of my cash accounts, but it wouldn't concern me to raid it rather than something earning a fair bit more. My current Cash ISA (area limited) in RS form pays 1.45% and I'm happy with that.
  • Ifts said:
    Some of the benefits of using the S&S ISA wrapper:
    • No capital gains tax
    • No tax on dividends
    • No record keeping
    • Can benefit from Additional Permitted Subscription
    There are some exceptions for dividends. I had DGOC shares in an ISA. At the time DGOC was an AIM listing but has since moved to main London market.

    It pays around 12% dividends. I was horrified to see that Mr trump deducted 15% from my first dividend payment! It's a US company and he does not recognise our ISAs as a tax shelter. Simple solution - move shares from ISA to SIPP where they are safe from Mr Trump!
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