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Neighbour changing use of garage

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  • HampshireH
    HampshireH Posts: 4,933 Forumite
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    Are you planning on moving imminently?

    You talk about potential sales being affected.....which seems to been your main gripe initially.

    If you're not planning on moving then isn't the point redundant?
  • Davesnave
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     - the one remaining concern would be to ensure no windows looking into their garden are built in that particular garage wall.
    OP would have no worries on that score, as without planning there would be no right to put windows there and any windows added otherwise could be obscured by fencing or plants.

  • Davesnave
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     i never thought when i purchased that it would be used for anything other than garage /garden use as it is a detached ancillary building specifically built for that use...a garage !
     Perhaps you're not terribly imaginative? Over the centuries, buildings have changed their use in accordance with human beings' activities and needs. For example, as farming methods have altered in modern times, redundant farm buildings are being re-purposed as housing.
    But even if the building had been left essentially as it was, it might still have had the capacity to house activities that would annoy you; such as a band practice room, or a place to modify cars, which always involves a great deal of revving!

  • GDB2222
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    I think I would report any occupation as a home to the planning enforcement team. Anonymously, perhaps. The reason is that once the usage has become established, they can apply to knock it down and build a house there, and you really don’t want that. The fact it’s being used residentially would act in their favour. 
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Davesnave
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    GDB2222 said:
    I think I would report any occupation as a home to the planning enforcement team. Anonymously, perhaps. The reason is that once the usage has become established, they can apply to knock it down and build a house there...
    How long would that be? Four years or ten? We needed to have have illegally occupied our house for 10 years in order to achieve a Certificate of Lawful Development, so I imagine this would be similar.
    A member of my family fell on hard times when her husband left her. Another family member converted his garage and housed her in a basic fashionfor 2 years before she was able to build the resources to move out. It was no picnic, but she felt it infinitely preferable to throwing herself on the tender mercies of the local authority.

  • davidmcn
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    GDB2222 said:
    I think I would report any occupation as a home to the planning enforcement team. Anonymously, perhaps. The reason is that once the usage has become established, they can apply to knock it down and build a house there, and you really don’t want that. The fact it’s being used residentially would act in their favour. 
    It sounds like at best they'd be establishing usage ancillary to the main house - that's not enough to get consent for a separate dwelling (if there's even sufficient space to build a new house in the back garden of a terrace of small houses).
  • GDB2222
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    edited 3 September 2020 at 10:52AM
    The local authorities are under pressure to allow new residential building, and I’d worry that this would be a foot in the door. I’m not convinced that the usage would be ancillary to the main house. I suppose that depends on how it is actually used until the certificate is obtained.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • theoretica
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    I believe mains water and drainage are a threshold where building control is needed, and rather significant for it becoming an independent dwelling. 
    But a banker, engaged at enormous expense,
    Had the whole of their cash in his care.
    Lewis Carroll
  • It sounds like the garage isn't "in" OP's garden at all. Sounds like one of OP's boundaries has a neighbour's garage side-wall on it instead of a fence.
    In that case my next door Neighbour’s kitchen is in my garden!!
  • A friend converted her garage into a play room. As she had a suspended floor put in she did not need planning permission. She also had the garage door bricked up and window put in. The garage was at the front of her property though.
    I thought that if you did not put any toilet/shower in and the person used the main houses for this no planning was required?
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