Does anyone remember when the UK had an economy worth investing in?

AlanP_2

Diplodicus said:

Son is looking to sell ARM. That would be a great buy for the UK.

Unless you want the Government to take it in to state ownership then how could the UK buy ARM?

Investors will buy ARM if / when it is sold, either through a market listing or private sale. If listed some of the investors will be UK based, if a private sale the buying entity may be UK based and it may have some UK based investors.

CreditCardChris

AlanP_2 said:

Diplodicus said:

Son is looking to sell ARM. That would be a great buy for the UK.

Unless you want the Government to take it in to state ownership then how could the UK buy ARM?

Investors will buy ARM if / when it is sold, either through a market listing or private sale. If listed some of the investors will be UK based, if a private sale the buying entity may be UK based and it may have some UK based investors.

The irony of this is ARM used to actually be a British company... Then we sold it to Softbank.

grumiofoundation

CreditCardChris said:

AlanP_2 said:

Diplodicus said:

Son is looking to sell ARM. That would be a great buy for the UK.

Unless you want the Government to take it in to state ownership then how could the UK buy ARM?

Investors will buy ARM if / when it is sold, either through a market listing or private sale. If listed some of the investors will be UK based, if a private sale the buying entity may be UK based and it may have some UK based investors.

The irony of this is ARM used to actually be a British company... Then we sold it to Softbank.

You remind me of a funny Mitchell and Webb sketch. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1WN0YMWZU

Michael121

I love how some get wound up by someone's choice of words, just because someone says we or my don't mean they think they took part in something or they own it. I did chuckle at the vid though ty for that

Diplodicus

If Govt had a credible industrial strategy, it would not have let the company be wrested from U.K. control, say ARMs co-founders.

Arguably, ARM grew in the wrong country. 

Yes, funny link, tho.

bowlhead99

short_bread said:

Oh yay ANOTHER credit card chris nostalgic anti-UK sentiment thread. Please stop spamming a forum about saving and investing with these multiple threads about the same thing. It's boring and irrelevant.

While I think a number of people would agree that Chris's threads sometimes show a lack of knowledge or understanding, some naivety and a lack of willingness to see another point of view, I don't see that you have much ground to complain that he has created 'ANOTHER' thread. He has created precisely zero threads since you registered your account, even counting this thread - it was already going several days before you registered. If you don't like the content of a forum, feel free not to join the party.

Yes, we appreciate that actually you are not a new user and have been actively posting on this forum for the last three months, simply creating a new user name to hide behind every time someone disagrees with you too strongly or calls out your poor behaviour.  So, just like the rest of us, you have seen a lot of threads and get bored of the same rants coming in from the same people.

It does seem somewhat ironic that you would persist in creating ever-newer usernames through which you advance your samey points of view while complaining at Chris for repetition. At least he is honest and unashamed of his viewpoints.

At 1.06pm today on a different Savings and Investments thread you suggested that people "keep it kind" and that you, "know there's a few in here who think being polite doesn't matter, but this is a place people come to for help, not bitching". Fifteen minutes later on the Pensions forum, you suggested that , "This is a place to ask questions about money, there is no need to be unkind. There are other sites with a less supportive atmosphere where that tone may be welcome".

All very admirable: perhaps this is the "new you" and we should embrace the positive mindset of our newest 10+posts per day forum number.

Yet eleven minutes after that, you were back over on the savings and investments board again, criticising a thread creator for "yet ANOTHER" thread on a topic with which you disagree, saying that he was a spammer and the content was "boring and irrelevant". So, the concept of keeping it kind, polite and supportive on two different sub-forums is something that has abandoned ship within the space of half an hour as your post-count grew.

Your attitude is terrible. It's childish and petty to continually create new secret identities to continue your tirade of disagreement, and is hardly likely to endear you to this online community.

CreditCardChris

short_bread said:

Oh yay ANOTHER credit card chris nostalgic anti-UK sentiment thread. Please stop spamming a forum about saving and investing with these multiple threads about the same thing. It's boring and irrelevant.
 The long-term real returns of most global equity markets is around 4-6%.
It's the same for the UK and US.
The reason the FTSE 100 looks so bad recently is because of Brexit, before then performance was on par with global markets. That's it, mystery solved. The UK is now significantly undervalued relative to global markets and will probably have to revert to the mean soon enough, unless you believe that something has changed in the past few years that means that from now on the UK will structurally continue to underperform global markets. I don't.

The average for the S&P with dividends reinvested is 12% not 4% - 6%.
The UK with dividends reinvested I think averages around 7%.

short_bread

bowlhead99 said:

short_bread said:

Oh yay ANOTHER credit card chris nostalgic anti-UK sentiment thread. Please stop spamming a forum about saving and investing with these multiple threads about the same thing. It's boring and irrelevant.

While I think a number of people would agree that Chris's threads sometimes show a lack of knowledge or understanding, some naivety and a lack of willingness to see another point of view, I don't see that you have much ground to complain that he has created 'ANOTHER' thread. He has created precisely zero threads since you registered your account, even counting this thread - it was already going several days before you registered. If you don't like the content of a forum, feel free not to join the party.

Yes, we appreciate that actually you are not a new user and have been actively posting on this forum for the last three months, simply creating a new user name to hide behind every time someone disagrees with you too strongly or calls out your poor behaviour.  So, just like the rest of us, you have seen a lot of threads and get bored of the same rants coming in from the same people.

It does seem somewhat ironic that you would persist in creating ever-newer usernames through which you advance your samey points of view while complaining at Chris for repetition. At least he is honest and unashamed of his viewpoints.

At 1.06pm today on a different Savings and Investments thread you suggested that people "keep it kind" and that you, "know there's a few in here who think being polite doesn't matter, but this is a place people come to for help, not bitching". Fifteen minutes later on the Pensions forum, you suggested that , "This is a place to ask questions about money, there is no need to be unkind. There are other sites with a less supportive atmosphere where that tone may be welcome".

All very admirable: perhaps this is the "new you" and we should embrace the positive mindset of our newest 10+posts per day forum number.

Yet eleven minutes after that, you were back over on the savings and investments board again, criticising a thread creator for "yet ANOTHER" thread on a topic with which you disagree, saying that he was a spammer and the content was "boring and irrelevant". So, the concept of keeping it kind, polite and supportive on two different sub-forums is something that has abandoned ship within the space of half an hour as your post-count grew.

Your attitude is terrible. It's childish and petty to continually create new secret identities to continue your tirade of disagreement, and is hardly likely to endear you to this online community.

Firstly, I don't know what you're talking about. Secondly, this is creepy. Thirdly, just from a glance at your profile I'm sure many posters are grateful for your comments, the effort you put in, and your level of knowledge which appears to be at least on par with my own. However, since you have rasied creating fake accounts, I have notice a trend on yours (call it returning the favour). Every so often an apparently new and not particularly knowledgeable poster comes along with a question, and when you answer it, you receive an ingratiatingly thankful response, many of these responses are similarly worded. This appears to be unique to you. Also, whenever you decide to have a go at someone, there seems to be a posse of accounts that follow you, thank your comments, and reply agreeing with you.
I am left with two conclusions. One is that you are a "king" on this forum, the way you write your responses uniquely and consistently generates simlarly worded ingratiating gratitude among those you help, and you have a small, loyal and active following.
The second possibility, is that you have created all of this in order to create an impression that you are "king" of this forum. As such it seems funny that you would criticise someone for attempting to be a small fraction as active on the forum as yourself.

You do not own this forum, it is not your playground, your behaviour is very disappointing for someone apparently so knowledgeable.

barnstar2077

short_bread said:

bowlhead99 said:

short_bread said:

Oh yay ANOTHER credit card chris nostalgic anti-UK sentiment thread. Please stop spamming a forum about saving and investing with these multiple threads about the same thing. It's boring and irrelevant.

While I think a number of people would agree that Chris's threads sometimes show a lack of knowledge or understanding, some naivety and a lack of willingness to see another point of view, I don't see that you have much ground to complain that he has created 'ANOTHER' thread. He has created precisely zero threads since you registered your account, even counting this thread - it was already going several days before you registered. If you don't like the content of a forum, feel free not to join the party.

Yes, we appreciate that actually you are not a new user and have been actively posting on this forum for the last three months, simply creating a new user name to hide behind every time someone disagrees with you too strongly or calls out your poor behaviour.  So, just like the rest of us, you have seen a lot of threads and get bored of the same rants coming in from the same people.

It does seem somewhat ironic that you would persist in creating ever-newer usernames through which you advance your samey points of view while complaining at Chris for repetition. At least he is honest and unashamed of his viewpoints.

At 1.06pm today on a different Savings and Investments thread you suggested that people "keep it kind" and that you, "know there's a few in here who think being polite doesn't matter, but this is a place people come to for help, not bitching". Fifteen minutes later on the Pensions forum, you suggested that , "This is a place to ask questions about money, there is no need to be unkind. There are other sites with a less supportive atmosphere where that tone may be welcome".

All very admirable: perhaps this is the "new you" and we should embrace the positive mindset of our newest 10+posts per day forum number.

Yet eleven minutes after that, you were back over on the savings and investments board again, criticising a thread creator for "yet ANOTHER" thread on a topic with which you disagree, saying that he was a spammer and the content was "boring and irrelevant". So, the concept of keeping it kind, polite and supportive on two different sub-forums is something that has abandoned ship within the space of half an hour as your post-count grew.

Your attitude is terrible. It's childish and petty to continually create new secret identities to continue your tirade of disagreement, and is hardly likely to endear you to this online community.

Firstly, I don't know what you're talking about. Secondly, this is creepy. Thirdly, just from a glance at your profile I'm sure many posters are grateful for your comments, the effort you put in, and your level of knowledge which appears to be at least on par with my own. However, since you have rasied creating fake accounts, I have notice a trend on yours (call it returning the favour). Every so often an apparently new and not particularly knowledgeable poster comes along with a question, and when you answer it, you receive an ingratiatingly thankful response, many of these responses are similarly worded. This appears to be unique to you. Also, whenever you decide to have a go at someone, there seems to be a posse of accounts that follow you, thank your comments, and reply agreeing with you.
I am left with two conclusions. One is that you are a "king" on this forum, the way you write your responses uniquely and consistently generates simlarly worded ingratiating gratitude among those you help, and you have a small, loyal and active following.
The second possibility, is that you have created all of this in order to create an impression that you are "king" of this forum. As such it seems funny that you would criticise someone for attempting to be a small fraction as active on the forum as yourself.

You do not own this forum, it is not your playground, your behaviour is very disappointing for someone apparently so knowledgeable.

Bowlhead is very knowledgeable and has helped a lot of people.  To imply that he is creating accounts to ask himself questions so that he can thank himself is hilarious :  )

Or am I Bowlhead too? <Cue The Twilight Zone theme>  :  ) 

PS  I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, sorry!

short_bread

In any event clearly the forum has decayed from when I last left it, yonks ago, which is a shame because it has so much potential to be a useful resource but seems to have been taken over by spammers, bots, trolls and whatever other names can be come up with for them.