TUI return flight from Zante - all passengers to self isolate

sheramber

bradders1983 said:

silvercar said:

Westin said:

...and don't you find this silly behaviour between our home nations rather disjointed and churlish as well.  I know the wee-one would like to lead independence for Scotland and do anything possible to stir and wind up Boris, despite hurting those that live in Scotland.  Not sure why the Welsh Assembly are joining the game now.   Completely pointless to divide and have different rules. 

We now have the ridiculous situation that someone can not fly from Rhodes to Glasgow without a 14-day quarantine upon arrival, yet could fly from Rhodes to Newcastle and take the train back into Scotland, keep quite and get on with life.   Ditto fly to Bristol and drive over into Wales.

The stupidity of our political "leaders" is beyond a joke. 

You’re still meant to isolate if you land in England and then travel to Wales or Scotland. Your locator form says where you have been and where you will be staying.
legally you could probably remain in England for 14 days rather than go home and stay in isolation.

"But discrepancies between different UK nations makes it even harder as someone could, theoretically, fly into Newcastle from Greece and drive into Scotland. That person should self-isolate for 14 days, but no-one will be checking."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54022411

Track and Trace, Scotland  are checking those who are due to self isolate. The passenger locator form will show the home address in Scotland  as where they are travelling to.
Portugal's rate pr 100,000 is 23.
Scotland's rate per 100,000 is 14.  
UK 's rate is 25.

bradders1983

sheramber said:

bradders1983 said:

silvercar said:

Westin said:

...and don't you find this silly behaviour between our home nations rather disjointed and churlish as well.  I know the wee-one would like to lead independence for Scotland and do anything possible to stir and wind up Boris, despite hurting those that live in Scotland.  Not sure why the Welsh Assembly are joining the game now.   Completely pointless to divide and have different rules. 

We now have the ridiculous situation that someone can not fly from Rhodes to Glasgow without a 14-day quarantine upon arrival, yet could fly from Rhodes to Newcastle and take the train back into Scotland, keep quite and get on with life.   Ditto fly to Bristol and drive over into Wales.

The stupidity of our political "leaders" is beyond a joke. 

You’re still meant to isolate if you land in England and then travel to Wales or Scotland. Your locator form says where you have been and where you will be staying.
legally you could probably remain in England for 14 days rather than go home and stay in isolation.

"But discrepancies between different UK nations makes it even harder as someone could, theoretically, fly into Newcastle from Greece and drive into Scotland. That person should self-isolate for 14 days, but no-one will be checking."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54022411

Track and Trace, Scotland  are checking those who are due to self isolate. The passenger locator form will show the home address in Scotland  as where they are travelling to.
Portugal's rate pr 100,000 is 23.
Scotland's rate per 100,000 is 14.  
UK 's rate is 25.

The UK rate is nowhere near 25

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1139048/coronavirus-case-rates-in-the-past-7-days-in-europe-by-country/

15 as of yesterday, it wont have gone up 10 in one day.

sheramber

bradders1983 said:

sheramber said:

bradders1983 said:

silvercar said:

Westin said:

...and don't you find this silly behaviour between our home nations rather disjointed and churlish as well.  I know the wee-one would like to lead independence for Scotland and do anything possible to stir and wind up Boris, despite hurting those that live in Scotland.  Not sure why the Welsh Assembly are joining the game now.   Completely pointless to divide and have different rules. 

We now have the ridiculous situation that someone can not fly from Rhodes to Glasgow without a 14-day quarantine upon arrival, yet could fly from Rhodes to Newcastle and take the train back into Scotland, keep quite and get on with life.   Ditto fly to Bristol and drive over into Wales.

The stupidity of our political "leaders" is beyond a joke. 

You’re still meant to isolate if you land in England and then travel to Wales or Scotland. Your locator form says where you have been and where you will be staying.
legally you could probably remain in England for 14 days rather than go home and stay in isolation.

"But discrepancies between different UK nations makes it even harder as someone could, theoretically, fly into Newcastle from Greece and drive into Scotland. That person should self-isolate for 14 days, but no-one will be checking."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54022411

Track and Trace, Scotland  are checking those who are due to self isolate. The passenger locator form will show the home address in Scotland  as where they are travelling to.
Portugal's rate pr 100,000 is 23.
Scotland's rate per 100,000 is 14.  
UK 's rate is 25.

The UK rate is nowhere near 25

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1139048/coronavirus-case-rates-in-the-past-7-days-in-europe-by-country/

15 as of yesterday, it wont have gone up 10 in one day.

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

bradders1983

Those are 14 day rates. Boris and co only concern themselves with the 7 day rate being 20 or higher.

Pollycat

bradders1983 said:

The UK rate is nowhere near 25

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1139048/coronavirus-case-rates-in-the-past-7-days-in-europe-by-country/

15 as of yesterday, it wont have gone up 10 in one day.

The data sherambler is using is the "14-day cumulative number of COVID-19 cases per 100 000", not the 7 day.

bradders1983

The 14 day rate is irrelevant as far as government decision making is concerned. Its the 7 day rate they are bothered about. 20 per 100k the magic number. 

sheramber

Not very magic when Portugal has been over 20 and no action taken.

waamo

bradders1983 said:

Those are 14 day rates. Boris and co only concern themselves with the 7 day rate being 20 or higher.

I don't think Bo Jo and co concern themselves with any measure other than public opinion. The stated threshold of 20 only seems to apply when they feel it should.

bradders1983

sheramber said:

Not very magic when Portugal has been over 20 and no action taken.

The magic number to discuss it, not remove it. Gibraltar was three figures and it stayed on.