Seiss grant rejected

jimbob11

@haras_n0sirrah @pdel61
I'm just curious what department of the HMRC you all work for with such HMRC bias comments and just because I earned money which was totally obvious because i paid tax on those earnings doesn't mean I had spare money to give to an accountant which would of ended in all my rebate going to the HMRC to pay fines

haras_n0sirrah

I didn't qualify for help as I am a limited company director so I get why you are upset. The simple truth is your tax return was due in on the 31st Jan. You missed this deadline and were given a lifeline of an extension and this was also missed. Hmrc are not going to extend it again. You can complain and get your mp involved as is your right but people telling you what you want to hear isnt going to change anything. You need to be prepared for the answer to be no as that is the very likely outcome. I would certainly engage an accountant from now on as it is cheaper for an accountant to submit your returns on time than to pay hmrc fines regardless of the seiss grant (assuming you get the paperwork to the accountant on time)

jimbob11

Haras_no so your a mortgage advisor your not looking at the situation from a regular person point of view no point in going back and forth with you,all my tax and ni was payed at source years ago,HMRC owed me money for tax rebates deadline or no deadline they only needed to assess the average earnings from the tax returns they now have that information the deadline makes no sense there is plenty of time to assess that information, for some people HMRC is not a constant thing in there lives other things are going on sometimes things are late, how can they claim to be helping people through rough times when they can't even have the courtesy to look on the computer in front of them at look at the tax return information that has been sitting there for about 3 months it's not that hard, I would understand if I wanted the grant but have submitted no tax return at all that's not the case

comeandgo

What was the HMRC computer problem?  If it was the total reason you were late with the return contact HMRC and tell them the date and time you were affected and if there was a problem they may look again at your complaint.  I had a late fine a few years ago which I ignored as I knew I had completed the return, still the late fines came in and I contacted them.  Their IS department were able to see I had been on line with them and I had completed and as far as I knew submitted my return.  The fines were recalled.

The_Fat_Controller

You missed the deadline for submission, which was months after 31 January.
It's as simple as that by your own admission.

Time2Go_25

jimbob11 said:

@haras_n0sirrah @pdel61
I'm just curious what department of the HMRC you all work for with such HMRC bias comments and just because I earned money which was totally obvious because i paid tax on those earnings doesn't mean I had spare money to give to an accountant which would of ended in all my rebate going to the HMRC to pay fines

I'm not making any biased comments, just stating facts. Most things you apply for have deadlines, I missed a flight once as I got stuck in a traffic accident on the M4, they didn't hold the plane up for me to turn up. The grant deadline was published and then extended to allow people more time, you missed it, that's really all there is to say. There were others who missed out on payments, such as those new start ups, people who earned more in employment in previous years, people with profits of more than £50k, who might not have been that cash rich. Many of these could be quite deserving cases, but I'm short on sympathy for those who just didn't bother submitting their forms on time.

jimbob11

@pdel61 I ain't asking for your sympathy unless you work for the HMRC which I think a few of you might, I'm questioning the deadline to get assistance, a plane if you miss the deadline is because the plane is about to take off,this grant is running till October a full 6 months since the HMRC have had my tax returns to assess my average earnings to me that's just not playing fair especially considering the seriousness of the situation and the amount of years I have paid tax and ni

SpreadableToast

jimbob11 said:

@pdel61 I ain't asking for your sympathy unless you work for the HMRC which I think a few of you might, I'm questioning the deadline to get assistance, a plane if you miss the deadline is because the plane is about to take off,this grant is running till October a full 6 months since the HMRC have had my tax returns to assess my average earnings to me that's just not playing fair especially considering the seriousness of the situation and the amount of years I have paid tax and ni

It's perfectly fair.  In fact, it's more than fair.  Really they shouldn't have given an extension at all in my opinion.  Aside from it encouraging the give an inch take a mile mindset like yours, it'll probably teach people to complete their tax returns on time in future, as apparently the current penalties aren't enough for some people.

Thrugelmir

jimbob11 said:

@pdel61 I ain't asking for your sympathy unless you work for the HMRC which I think a few of you might, I'm questioning the deadline to get assistance, a plane if you miss the deadline is because the plane is about to take off,this grant is running till October a full 6 months since the HMRC have had my tax returns to assess my average earnings to me that's just not playing fair especially considering the seriousness of the situation and the amount of years I have paid tax and ni

You missed the plane twice. No reason to be granted special status. As certainly no extenuating circumstances other than your own poor time management. 

jimbob11

@SpreadableToast you people definitely work for some branch of the HMRC I'm not saying no more here to you fake civilians