Home extension advice - kitchen, side or rear two storey

Rosa_Damascena

FreeBear said:

Parties03 said: I don’t even know how I would do that, what angle I’d come at it from. I guess I’d need to find out what that goes for first but what grounds would I have to change my offer?

Have you had a survey done yet ?

If not, the surveyor is bound to look at the asking price of next door and adjust his valuation accordingly.

Aye, a good surveyor will help you knock plenty off the price just by the list of faults s/he finds.

OP - I'd love a long weekend in Norwich. What I'm less keen on is Norfolk which is just too parochial for my liking.

Parties03

Rosa_Damascena said:

Aye, a good surveyor will help you knock plenty off the price just by the list of faults s/he finds.

OP - I'd love a long weekend in Norwich. What I'm less keen on is Norfolk which is just too parochial for my liking.

I've got to say, as a completely non-religious person myself I've actually not found it to be a problem at all! In fairness, I think you may find more of these issues around north norfolk/ broadland area if you were to live there, but for day trips out and things not really. Some of the places are really worth a visit though - we went to Walsingham last year and it's amaaaazing, such a beautiful little town, one of my favourite places I've ever been and so different to many other parts of the UK I've been to let along Norfolk! 

Rosa_Damascena

Parties03 said:

Rosa_Damascena said:

Aye, a good surveyor will help you knock plenty off the price just by the list of faults s/he finds.

OP - I'd love a long weekend in Norwich. What I'm less keen on is Norfolk which is just too parochial for my liking.

I've got to say, as a completely non-religious person myself I've actually not found it to be a problem at all! 

Parochial as in having a narrow outlook based on their experience of little outside of the village, much less the county.

But I'm happy to learn differently.

Parties03

Haha I wasn't sure what it meant so I had to look it up - came up as religious! I haven't found people here too narrow minded either though, there's certainly a lack of diversity but it's improved a lot in the last few years noticeably. Not so much in Norfolk but I suppose that's the case for all rural areas tbh. 

Emmia

FreeBear said:

I'd suggest moving the bathroom to where you have the fourth bedroom - This would reduce any drainage to a minimum... One solution to the side access problem is to build over and have a passageway. You lose on floor space on the ground floor, but get to have the extra width upstairs.

I was thinking this - I'd turn the existing ensuite into a dressing room in between the bedroom and bathroom. 

freyahenry

A great deal of cost for not a ton of room as I would see it for the side augmentation. 3m 3.5m from the existing divider to limit. Less at any rate 1-1.5m space for fence boards (whatever the limit is) and trail from limit to the divider. Short around 400mm for block/square/protection and putting. At that point, you are left with perhaps 1m-1.5m width interior space. Include pipework and a clothes washer into that space and you've sufficiently got space to stroll through.

Rosa_Damascena

freyahenry said:

A great deal of cost for not a ton of room as I would see it for the side augmentation. 3m 3.5m from the existing divider to limit. Less at any rate 1-1.5m space for fence boards (whatever the limit is) and trail from limit to the divider. Short around 400mm for block/square/protection and putting. At that point, you are left with perhaps 1m-1.5m width interior space. Include pipework and a clothes washer into that space and you've sufficiently got space to stroll through.

It is wide enough for an en-suite bathroom and stair return plus storage, should the OP wish to convert the loft at a later stage. At least they would not be losing a room that way.

Parties03

thanks everyone! 
I've contacted a few architects for a prelim proposal. Managed to meet one at the property yesterday but the others I think really will only manage to go off floor plans (some scale ones exist from the previous planning permission application). 
Due to the previous declined application, architect 1 advises to leave 1m both storeys and do an L shape first floor extension to the side and back - doesn't sound as nice as it would mean a small corridor between to of the bedrooms. 
architect 2 who we met was surprised at the previous declined one and said it shouldn't have been, rather should have been altered, but a side extension all the way out on 1st floor should be attainable and passed, and would be the simplest, cheapest and least disruptive way to extend the house rather than going back. It also would allow alteration to the kitchen to make that wider or change the roof to bring in more light as it's super dark as is for a south facing kitchen. 
Will see what others come up with

FreeBear

Parties03 said: architect 2 who we met was surprised at the previous declined one and said it shouldn't have been, rather should have been altered, but a side extension all the way out on 1st floor should be attainable and passed, and would be the simplest, cheapest and least disruptive way to extend the house rather than going back.

Sent you a link to another planning application that was approved for a side extension to the boundary - Similar age & style to the property you are looking at. Two points you'll need to watch out for - Gas meter, and drains - Both are on the side which may complicate matters and/or add to the costs.

Parties03

FreeBear said:

Sent you a link to another planning application that was approved for a side extension to the boundary - Similar age & style to the property you are looking at. Two points you'll need to watch out for - Gas meter, and drains - Both are on the side which may complicate matters and/or add to the costs.

will wait for it to come through, thank you!!
Ah yes, not checked where those are yet, I'm guessing the architect/ architectural technician or structural engineer would look at those though and subsequently what needs to be done to rectify those issues? V likely whichever architect we go with would be part of a company so that they can get a quote at least for all of the work and we would have an accurate idea of what to expect so I guess that would all be accounted for before this?