UKCPM Free Parking Overstay - Another one bites the dust ! 26/10/23

Redx

jag_run said:

Thanks @Redx / @Umkomaas - I wasn't very clear in what I meant. I am aware that from a legal standpoint the 'ridiculous charge' aspect is no longer a consideration. What I mean was if to fight the PCN as the morally right thing to do. If the charge was somewhat more realistic, for example maybe £20-£30 area then it would seem fairer given the supposed offence. It is clear money grabbing at the current rate, and there is no real justification in my mind for a the discount/increase either in such a short amount of time.

I'm going to go there and check out the signage and take it from there. Thanks

But it's already been tested in 3 courts and thrown out on each occasion

You are banging your head against a brick wall and will fail , the claimant will just say "Beavis case your honour" and the judge will say , move along

jag_run

Hi @Redx - you misunderstand me. I know that is not a legal argument I can make. All I'm saying is I'm willing to take a different legal defence, on the basis of my own personal opinion that the charge is morally wrong. 

A means to an end if you will

Redx

No , I don't misunderstand you at all , I am saying that your argument failed with the Beavis case , end of story !!!

I can see I am wasting my time though , so I won't be replying any further

Ralph-y

have you said where the retail park is ?

it may may have previous .......

Ralph

jag_run

Redx said:

No , I don't misunderstand you at all , I am saying that your argument failed with the Beavis case , end of story !!!

I can see I am wasting my time though , so I won't be replying any further

Apologies if I have upset you, but I am not making the argument that the charge is unreasonable/excessive. From my side atleast we seem to be in agreement on that point, so I am really confused. 

As I have seen from other threads etc, you clearly are knowledgeable and helpful in this area so I don't want to have unintentionally burnt that bridge.

Ralph-y said:

have you said where the retail park is ?

it may may have previous .......

Ralph

The charge simply refers to it as 'Chatham Maritime'... which is actually a general area (like a part of town) which extends several miles along the riverfront. The road or postcode is not specified on the notice.
/maps/@51.4002886,0.5381131,965m/data=!3m1!1e3
I'm too new to post links, but if you were to add Google .co.uk to the front of the above...

There are two carparks which would locally be known as 'Chatham Dockside Outlet' (which is the big one near Odeon). There is then the smaller one by the pub ('Ship & Trades carpark') where the ticket is for. Both covered by UKCPM, I'm not 100% sure though if both owned by the same company. 

Ralph-y

Do forum searches for the above info to see if anything comes up.

Which one where you scammed in ?

you need to find who owns / manages it and complain.

Ralph

Le_Kirk

Your link made live.  Don't know what happened but I was take to a job recruitment site when using all of your link.
I can see a multi-storey and the dockyard parking.  Which one are you referring to?

jag_run

Ralph-y said:

Do forum searches for the above info to see if anything comes up.

Which one where you scammed in ? 

It was the smaller one outside Ship & Trades pub.

Le_Kirk said:

Your made live.  Don't know what happened but I was take to a job recruitment site when using all of your link.

Thanks - not sure how that happened! The one you've done has gone a bit weird too as it's linking to a pub that isn't there!
This is the proper one... goo[remove this].gl/[and this]maps/aQSVYT6CtNDy43aE8 if you'd be so link as to make live. Thanks

Le_Kirk

OK, try THIS link, it does show a ship & trades pub and also a Co-op food store.  It's impossible to read the signs and I cannot see (with a quick Google street view) any PDT terminals.

Ralph-y

So try the manager at the pub first ... if he/she does not own it the ask who does?

this is plan A  and the quickest way to sort this cam out

Ralph