If I am sober can a pub bar me?

neiljc_2

uktim29 wrote: »

But I think the post is assuming there is no discrimination just what the landlord wants to do/decided to act.

Discrimination is also very hard to prove.

I wasnt referring to the original post ,only to blank statements posted about landlords/landladies being able to throw anyone out for any reason.

As for discrimination being hard to prove I refer you to the hundreds of case law examples on the Disability Rights Commision website (if still up) and to the two cases where I have supported disabled people with learning difficulties in Lincolnshire which resulted in an apology, compensation and awareness training taking place for the landlords and staff.

Oh and before someone complains about a "compensation culture" the compensation was as a means of ensuring the landlord and the brewery remembered the consequences of discrimination and the money was donated to a hospice.


Consider, if all you had to do was apologise, then some people would discriminate ,say sorry and then do it again because for some people words can be cheap.

Freddie_Snowbits

neiljc wrote: »

Oh and before someone complains about a "compensation culture" the compensation was as a means of ensuring the landlord and the brewery remembered the consequences of discrimination and the money was donated to a hospice.

The problem with discrmination, is that it feeds the culture. Rather than allowing people to respond respectively to others, the discrimination against the percieved individual, makes direct help inappropraite. I rememebr having a leg in plaster in the uK, and seeing others openly offensive to me, where as in Asia, where the same laws do not exist, help from numerous sources is at hand.

countrymusicfan

No, there is nothing between Trev and I because he is 35 and I am 52 and have 6 grandchildren, but I could have been mistaken for an over enthusiastic fan. I will wait next time and see him after the gig outside the pub.

tigtag02

neiljc wrote: »

Not strictly true

Pub landlords have succesfully been taken to court for disability discrimination for instance, so where discrimination which is covered by legislation could be the reason for barring entrance this is not allowed.

It would be interesting to see a link to this!!

shelly

countrymusicfan wrote: »

No, there is nothing between Trev and I because he is 35 and I am 52 and have 6 grandchildren, but I could have been mistaken for an over enthusiastic fan. I will wait next time and see him after the gig outside the pub.

You said in your opening post that he is your best friend. If so, why do you have to go to pubs to see him perform? Can't you buy cd's etc from him directly? Just seems odd to me that someone is your best friend yet you have to go to pubs to see them perform and buy their merchandise

i_like_shoes

countrymusicfan wrote: »

I went to the Blackfriars pub in Inverness because my best friend, Trevor James was singing there in November. :beer: We talked, I bought a CD, my son and I bought some things at his van and someone took a picture. According to the pub owner that took 1 hour 30 minutes. I went again on Saturday because he was singing again, and was told to leave at closing time. I was trying to buy a CD and was told I spent too much time after closing talking to him and it wasn't going to happen again. When I complained I was told that I didn't have to come back. The pub was full and they weren't having trouble getting me out this time. But his attitude all night was that I was a pain in the neck and he did not appreciate me being there. I drank diet coke and tomato juice, no strong drink, but can he bar me?

Are you ugly???? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Maybe he only want the beautiful ones

scbk

This is scotland, he probably threw you out for your complete lack of alcohol consumption.
Next time drown your liver, throw up over yourself, start a fight with your reflection then crawl round to the eastgate kebab house (it's open till 3am):cool:

uktim29

neiljc wrote: »

As for discrimination being hard to prove I refer you to the hundreds of case law examples on the Disability Rights Commision website (if still up) and to the two cases where I have supported disabled people with learning difficulties in Lincolnshire which resulted in an apology, compensation and awareness training taking place for the landlords and staff.

But in these cases there must have been something that could be proved. I'm more refering to people who have some sort of disability or are a minority of some sort accusing everything that happens to them to be some sort of discrimination.

Those sorts of people will have a job proving they have actually been discriminated against.

neiljc_2

tigtag02 wrote: »

It would be interesting to see a link to this!!

http://83.137.212.42/sitearchive/DRC/the_law/drc_legal_cases/impairment/sensory_impairment/local_pub_refuses_to_allow_!!!.html

http://83.137.212.42/sitearchive/DRC/the_law/drc_legal_cases/impairment/physical_impairment/pub_fails_to_make_services_acc.html

http://83.137.212.42/sitearchive/DRC/the_law/drc_legal_cases/impairment/learning_difficulties/pub_refuses_to_serve_customer_.html

http://83.137.212.42/sitearchive/DRC/the_law/drc_legal_cases/impairment/sensory_impairment/pub_restaurant_treats_deaf_cus.html

http://83.137.212.42/sitearchive/DRC/the_law/drc_legal_cases/impairment/learning_difficulties/twenty-four_individuals_with_l.html

http://83.137.212.42/sitearchive/DRC/the_law/drc_legal_cases/impairment/learning_difficulties/two_individuals_with_learning_.html

http://83.137.212.42/sitearchive/DRC/the_law/drc_legal_cases/impairment/learning_difficulties/two_individuals_with_learning_.html

sorry not very good at doing hyperlinks:rolleyes:

INteresting to think that these are only a few examples, think of the probably significant number of people who dont have the support or confidence to take forward complaints of discrimination

IvanOpinion

neiljc wrote: »

INteresting to think that these are only a few examples, think of the probably significant number of people who dont have the support or confidence to take forward complaints of discrimination

I think the most interesting bit is that we are descending deeper into a claim culture with the likelihood that people may go out of their way to be offended or have their feeling hurt just so that they can claim. really does show that the law is a total and utter a$$.

Sad old britain .. full of laws, devoid of justice

however, as others have pointed out it is all OT anyway since there is no hint that there was any kind of discrimination and it still holds that the owner of private premises has the right to refuse entry or ask someone to leave.

ivan