Partner desperate to go abroad ...

MalMonroe

Penelopa.Pitstop said:

I suggest Italy. No special entry requirements, low number of cases, hot weather. I spent 3 weeks in Italy recently and enjoyed it, except the part when I didn't visit some attractions, because I didn't want to wear a mask. But otherwise it was quite pleasant. 
Hotels are cheap due to lower number of tourists.

I'm currently in Switzerland but weather here is a bit moody. Mix of rain and hot weather. Masks only required on public transport.

That's great but you also have to factor in travel from the UK to there and back again. Circumstances in airports and on planes could change at a moment's notice. Still a bit of a gamble.

MalMonroe

I wouldn't bother this year. You could book something but you could also lose your money. I've also got itchy feet, have been a world traveller for the past 40 years and it's awful having to stay put. But right now it's quite clear that unnecessary travel is just foolish. It's not just the countries we have to consider, it's the modes of transport we use, getting to the airport, what's it like at the airport, what's it like on planes, etc. You can't even guarantee surviving coronavirus if you get infected, it's killing young and old alike. 

It's crazy to even consider going away simply because 'I wanna'.  You risk not only losing your money but also your life. 

prowla

bradders1983 said:

Malta probably not the worst place to pick, be decent weather still and at least if there are any issues (almost) everyone speaks English, but as above, its at your own risk.

I would think that Malta would be more nervous of people going there from the UK than vice-versa.

harz99

prowla said:

bradders1983 said:

Malta probably not the worst place to pick, be decent weather still and at least if there are any issues (almost) everyone speaks English, but as above, its at your own risk.

I would think that Malta would be more nervous of people going there from the UK than vice-versa.

Just another thing with Malta, if people are looking for a beach holiday there are afaik only two sandy beaches, elsewhere is concrete bathing platforms or hotel pool complexes, and it is ALWAYS dusty there, you'll taste the dust on windy days. 

smallblueplanet

There seems lots of people talking about risks without any valid stats to back up those risks. Why is it necessarily riskier to go abroad than stay in the UK? I want a late break in September and am thinking about the risks involved as I don't want to take the possibility of getting coronavirus lightly. But when you look at what little info is available how do people work out that it's safer to stay here than travel to say Greece? All I read is 'I feel that is a risk'.

bradders1983

harz99 said:

prowla said:

bradders1983 said:

Malta probably not the worst place to pick, be decent weather still and at least if there are any issues (almost) everyone speaks English, but as above, its at your own risk.

I would think that Malta would be more nervous of people going there from the UK than vice-versa.

Just another thing with Malta, if people are looking for a beach holiday there are afaik only two sandy beaches, elsewhere is concrete bathing platforms or hotel pool complexes, and it is ALWAYS dusty there, you'll taste the dust on windy days. 

I have been twice in the height of summer and never tasted dust. Fair point about the beaches but not everyone likes beaches, I certainly dont.

harz99

smallblueplanet said:

There seems lots of people talking about risks without any valid stats to back up those risks. Why is it necessarily riskier to go abroad than stay in the UK? I want a late break in September and am thinking about the risks involved as I don't want to take the possibility of getting coronavirus lightly. But when you look at what little info is available how do people work out that it's safer to stay here than travel to say Greece? All I read is 'I feel that is a risk'.

Any travel that puts you in an enclosed space in close proximity to complete strangers is a risk of catching an infection, that was the case before C-19 and hasn't changed. A further risk is the potential to be stranded abroad if a country suddenly locks down, another risk is the potential need to self quarantine on your return to the UK - any sensible person can see these risks exist...

Voyager2002

Some of my friends have just returned from a wonderful holiday in Greece: I am green with envy!

Firstly, note that according to MSE the only insurance that covers Covid-related risks is the Nationwide Flex Plus. This comes with a bank account so opening it would take a little time, so arrange that now.

Secondly, since the situation is so changeable I suggest booking very close to the date of departure.

Thrugelmir

smallblueplanet said:

 Why is it necessarily riskier to go abroad than stay in the UK? 

How do you think it arrived in the UK in the first place? The more people interact the greater the level of transmission. You never know who is asymptomatic. The reason tourism hasn't been shut down is that so many people are dependent upon on it for their livihoods. Melbourne is an indicator of what awaits in winter and people spend more time indoors together. 

smallblueplanet

Thrugelmir said:

smallblueplanet said:

 Why is it necessarily riskier to go abroad than stay in the UK? 

Melbourne is an indicator of what awaits in winter and people spend more time indoors together. 

So better to be outside.
I repeat where are the stats that show it's 'riskier' to go on holiday to a low risk area than it is to say stay in Manchester?