Suggestions for a speculative punt?

adindas

NottinghamKnight said:

adindas said:

Thrugelmir said:

adindas said:

"Alibaba (BABA)" is currentlyhaving a dip. Many analysts have recommended a buy signal for this stock. A lot of upside potential. This is just one example.

The flagship listing of Ant Group was pulled at the last minute in both Hong Kong and China due to regulatory concerns. Seems that Jack Ma has been pulled back into line. A timely reminder as to who runs China, and that it remains far removed from being an open democracy. Alibaba holds a sizable interest in Ant Group. 

Political risk needs to be factored in when investing. Just like all the other kinds, of which there are many. 

Yes that is a concern, Indeed political risk need to be factored. I am fully aware of the Ant group connection with Alibaba and the delay of IPO listing.

Ant group is also the stock I have been watching.

But for Alibaba I am taking that risk considering that a vast majority of analysts have sent a buy signal.

Analysts must have taken this political risk before making that judgement.

With the current price, they are also undervalued based on analysis estimated price.

They are megacap companies so the risk to go under administration is considerably low.

Analysts will report what they have been told, and paid, to.

Well, each to their own. Of course some of them are, but you will not be able control all of the analysts. You willl not be able to pay all of the analysts.

Also many people make the decision not solely based on analysts opinion because they have their ability to do their own analysis including technical analysis.

NottinghamKnight

adindas said:

NottinghamKnight said:

adindas said:

Thrugelmir said:

adindas said:

"Alibaba (BABA)" is currentlyhaving a dip. Many analysts have recommended a buy signal for this stock. A lot of upside potential. This is just one example.

The flagship listing of Ant Group was pulled at the last minute in both Hong Kong and China due to regulatory concerns. Seems that Jack Ma has been pulled back into line. A timely reminder as to who runs China, and that it remains far removed from being an open democracy. Alibaba holds a sizable interest in Ant Group. 

Political risk needs to be factored in when investing. Just like all the other kinds, of which there are many. 

Yes that is a concern, Indeed political risk need to be factored. I am fully aware of the Ant group connection with Alibaba and the delay of IPO listing.

Ant group is also the stock I have been watching.

But for Alibaba I am taking that risk considering that a vast majority of analysts have sent a buy signal.

Analysts must have taken this political risk before making that judgement.

With the current price, they are also undervalued based on analysis estimated price.

They are megacap companies so the risk to go under administration is considerably low.

Analysts will report what they have been told, and paid, to.

Well, each to their own. Of course some of them are, but you will not be able control all of the analysts. You willl not be able to pay all of the analysts.

Also many people make the decision not solely based on analysts opinion because they have their ability to do their own analysis including technical analysis.

No, you misunderstand, analysts reports need to be taken with scepticism as they may be employed by companies that themselves may be trading. Which analysts are you basing your views on? 

Cus

NottinghamKnight said:

adindas said:

NottinghamKnight said:

adindas said:

Thrugelmir said:

adindas said:

"Alibaba (BABA)" is currentlyhaving a dip. Many analysts have recommended a buy signal for this stock. A lot of upside potential. This is just one example.

The flagship listing of Ant Group was pulled at the last minute in both Hong Kong and China due to regulatory concerns. Seems that Jack Ma has been pulled back into line. A timely reminder as to who runs China, and that it remains far removed from being an open democracy. Alibaba holds a sizable interest in Ant Group. 

Political risk needs to be factored in when investing. Just like all the other kinds, of which there are many. 

Yes that is a concern, Indeed political risk need to be factored. I am fully aware of the Ant group connection with Alibaba and the delay of IPO listing.

Ant group is also the stock I have been watching.

But for Alibaba I am taking that risk considering that a vast majority of analysts have sent a buy signal.

Analysts must have taken this political risk before making that judgement.

With the current price, they are also undervalued based on analysis estimated price.

They are megacap companies so the risk to go under administration is considerably low.

Analysts will report what they have been told, and paid, to.

Well, each to their own. Of course some of them are, but you will not be able control all of the analysts. You willl not be able to pay all of the analysts.

Also many people make the decision not solely based on analysts opinion because they have their ability to do their own analysis including technical analysis.

No, you misunderstand, analysts reports need to be taken with scepticism as they may be employed by companies that themselves may be trading. Which analysts are you basing your views on? 

I'd hope that the impact of mifid2 research unbundling rules would have had an impact on that.

NottinghamKnight

Cus said:

NottinghamKnight said:

adindas said:

NottinghamKnight said:

adindas said:

Thrugelmir said:

adindas said:

"Alibaba (BABA)" is currentlyhaving a dip. Many analysts have recommended a buy signal for this stock. A lot of upside potential. This is just one example.

The flagship listing of Ant Group was pulled at the last minute in both Hong Kong and China due to regulatory concerns. Seems that Jack Ma has been pulled back into line. A timely reminder as to who runs China, and that it remains far removed from being an open democracy. Alibaba holds a sizable interest in Ant Group. 

Political risk needs to be factored in when investing. Just like all the other kinds, of which there are many. 

Yes that is a concern, Indeed political risk need to be factored. I am fully aware of the Ant group connection with Alibaba and the delay of IPO listing.

Ant group is also the stock I have been watching.

But for Alibaba I am taking that risk considering that a vast majority of analysts have sent a buy signal.

Analysts must have taken this political risk before making that judgement.

With the current price, they are also undervalued based on analysis estimated price.

They are megacap companies so the risk to go under administration is considerably low.

Analysts will report what they have been told, and paid, to.

Well, each to their own. Of course some of them are, but you will not be able control all of the analysts. You willl not be able to pay all of the analysts.

Also many people make the decision not solely based on analysts opinion because they have their ability to do their own analysis including technical analysis.

No, you misunderstand, analysts reports need to be taken with scepticism as they may be employed by companies that themselves may be trading. Which analysts are you basing your views on? 

I'd hope that the impact of mifid2 research unbundling rules would have had an impact on that.

We can all hope.

adindas

NottinghamKnight said:

adindas said:

NottinghamKnight said:

adindas said:

Thrugelmir said:

adindas said:

"Alibaba (BABA)" is currentlyhaving a dip. Many analysts have recommended a buy signal for this stock. A lot of upside potential. This is just one example.

The flagship listing of Ant Group was pulled at the last minute in both Hong Kong and China due to regulatory concerns. Seems that Jack Ma has been pulled back into line. A timely reminder as to who runs China, and that it remains far removed from being an open democracy. Alibaba holds a sizable interest in Ant Group. 

Political risk needs to be factored in when investing. Just like all the other kinds, of which there are many. 

Yes that is a concern, Indeed political risk need to be factored. I am fully aware of the Ant group connection with Alibaba and the delay of IPO listing.

Ant group is also the stock I have been watching.

But for Alibaba I am taking that risk considering that a vast majority of analysts have sent a buy signal.

Analysts must have taken this political risk before making that judgement.

With the current price, they are also undervalued based on analysis estimated price.

They are megacap companies so the risk to go under administration is considerably low.

Analysts will report what they have been told, and paid, to.

Well, each to their own. Of course some of them are, but you will not be able control all of the analysts. You willl not be able to pay all of the analysts.

Also many people make the decision not solely based on analysts opinion because they have their ability to do their own analysis including technical analysis.

No, you misunderstand, analysts reports need to be taken with scepticism as they may be employed by companies that themselves may be trading. Which analysts are you basing your views on? 

You defenitely do not read my previous message. Wasting time have a discussion with you.

I look at reasonable no of analysts prediction, not just one. And I have ability to do my own analysist including doing technical and fundamental analysis.

More importantly I believe I still have a common sense in making a decision.

csgohan4

Wonder how the news of effectivity for elderly patients for the vaccine will stir up the market today?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54986208

already made my final tranch of investment into IAG/ CINE some time ago,  for the medium term. 

Ciprico

csgohan4 said:

Wonder how the news of effectivity for elderly patients for the vaccine will stir up the market today?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54986208

already made my final tranch of investment into IAG/ CINE some time ago,  for the medium term. 

...shame there isn't an IT or ETF focus'd on UK Covid recovery - or maybe there is, ("FT100/250/350 tracker"?). 
Many other countries are already back at pre-covid levels.
Seems risky buying individual shares, for example even when cinemas re-open, there will be no new films to show (except Bond!).
Zoom/Teams may permanently replace a significant amount of business (high margin) travel ?

Thrugelmir

Cus said:

NottinghamKnight said:

adindas said:

NottinghamKnight said:

adindas said:

Thrugelmir said:

adindas said:

"Alibaba (BABA)" is currentlyhaving a dip. Many analysts have recommended a buy signal for this stock. A lot of upside potential. This is just one example.

The flagship listing of Ant Group was pulled at the last minute in both Hong Kong and China due to regulatory concerns. Seems that Jack Ma has been pulled back into line. A timely reminder as to who runs China, and that it remains far removed from being an open democracy. Alibaba holds a sizable interest in Ant Group. 

Political risk needs to be factored in when investing. Just like all the other kinds, of which there are many. 

Yes that is a concern, Indeed political risk need to be factored. I am fully aware of the Ant group connection with Alibaba and the delay of IPO listing.

Ant group is also the stock I have been watching.

But for Alibaba I am taking that risk considering that a vast majority of analysts have sent a buy signal.

Analysts must have taken this political risk before making that judgement.

With the current price, they are also undervalued based on analysis estimated price.

They are megacap companies so the risk to go under administration is considerably low.

Analysts will report what they have been told, and paid, to.

Well, each to their own. Of course some of them are, but you will not be able control all of the analysts. You willl not be able to pay all of the analysts.

Also many people make the decision not solely based on analysts opinion because they have their ability to do their own analysis including technical analysis.

No, you misunderstand, analysts reports need to be taken with scepticism as they may be employed by companies that themselves may be trading. Which analysts are you basing your views on? 

I'd hope that the impact of mifid2 research unbundling rules would have had an impact on that.

It has. Availability of good quality freely available research has progressively dried up. Most informative in depth reports are now unfortunately subscription based. 

Thrugelmir

csgohan4 said:

already made my final tranch of investment into IAG/ CINE some time ago,  for the medium term. 

Difficult to see Cineworld continuing in it's current form. Over burdened with debt.  Management must be currently considering all the options. Not least a Company Voluntary Arrangement. That would see a permanent closure of some sites and negotations with landlords with a view to getting the rent roll cut. 

adindas

adindas said:

This might be another jump for Tesla.

S&P Dow Jones Indices announced on Monday that Tesla will join the S&P 500 effective prior to trading on Monday, Dec. 21.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/16/tesla-stock-jumps-on-news-company-is-joining-sp-500.html

Nice chart on TSLA since yesterday due to S&P 500 inclusion.  Also because Morgan Stanley has upgraded its Price target. All of these analysists have valued Tesla stock at around US$250 (before the split) because they are comparing Tesla valuation with Traditional car makers such as Ford, GM, etc.

Lets hope the rally continue until Dec 21, 2020.

Treating this stock as an Iron stock will make you rich as it is higky likely it will turn to become a megacap stock at some point in the future similar to what happen to other technolgy stocks  like AAPL, AMZN, FB, MSFT.

It is the same with bitcoin but with much lower risk vs reward.