NEW ADDRESS HAS JUST INTRODUCED PARKING MANAGEMENT

NeilCr

tom_cahill said:

Update:

Today every resident has received a letter from the MA stating the following:

'PCM will undertake a 3 month contract...

MA and the landlord reserve the right to rescind the PCN if we feel it inappropriate or unfair...

The welfare of our tenants is paramount...

We apologise if this has caused unnecessary stress but please note the landlord had to act on complaints from residents. If this issue arises after the contract is cancelled, we will have no option to either instruct PCM again or sell further advice from parking control companies...

I will reiterate if you are issued with a ticket you MUST contact PCM to discuss any issues'

Okay

I am going to stick my head over the parapet here! Whatever the views on having a PPC  on site may be I don't think the landlord has been too unreasonable since you raised the issue. In general, freeholders/landlords don't act on things like this unless there have been complaints. The  PPC may well not have been the right solution  - but they are there now and the complainants have seen some action.

You guys have come along and pointed out the major flaws in having a PPC. The landlord has taken on board your views (he could have told you to go and do one) and  reiterated that tickets can be cancelled. Must admit I'd prefer if you could have done that through the MA and not having to contact the PPC. There is, also, a three month trial. Within that period, hopefully, residents can ensure there is no rogue parking and that any transgression by the PPC is reported immediately. And the PPC will go

Alternatively you can take the landlord on. The landlord may well consider that they have tried to meet people half way and dig their heels in if they feel confronted in any way. As we've said before there is also the landlord/tenant relationship to take into account

Whatever you decide to do. Good luck - hope it works out for you 

D_P_Dance

In my experience as a landlord of some fifty years,  tenants have very little clout when they go up against landlords and leaseholders.   

Umkomaas

The '3 month trial period' is a pretty common entree across the PPC network. It will, by osmosis, slide into a much longer term contract if no one does anything to stop it. Then the termination of the contract will carry severe penalties placing the landowner between a rock and a hard place - cough up the swingeing cancellation fee, or let the PPC loose to hoover up motorists by the score for the n years of the full contract. 

I'd be asking your MA for precise dates of the trial period, how it will be 'reviewed' and by whom, what criteria will they use to determine cancellation/continuation, will the views of tenants form part of the review process. Don't take your eye off this now, or you'll sleepwalk into a lengthy (3-5 years) period of PPC hell!

tom_cahill

NeilCr said:

tom_cahill said:

Update:

Today every resident has received a letter from the MA stating the following:

'PCM will undertake a 3 month contract...

MA and the landlord reserve the right to rescind the PCN if we feel it inappropriate or unfair...

The welfare of our tenants is paramount...

We apologise if this has caused unnecessary stress but please note the landlord had to act on complaints from residents. If this issue arises after the contract is cancelled, we will have no option to either instruct PCM again or sell further advice from parking control companies...

I will reiterate if you are issued with a ticket you MUST contact PCM to discuss any issues'

Okay

I am going to stick my head over the parapet here! Whatever the views on having a PPC  on site may be I don't think the landlord has been too unreasonable since you raised the issue. In general, freeholders/landlords don't act on things like this unless there have been complaints. The  PPC may well not have been the right solution  - but they are there now and the complainants have seen some action.

You guys have come along and pointed out the major flaws in having a PPC. The landlord has taken on board your views (he could have told you to go and do one) and  reiterated that tickets can be cancelled. Must admit I'd prefer if you could have done that through the MA and not having to contact the PPC. There is, also, a three month trial. Within that period, hopefully, residents can ensure there is no rogue parking and that any transgression by the PPC is reported immediately. And the PPC will go

Alternatively you can take the landlord on. The landlord may well consider that they have tried to meet people half way and dig their heels in if they feel confronted in any way. As we've said before there is also the landlord/tenant relationship to take into account

Whatever you decide to do. Good luck - hope it works out for you 

Thanks for this. I tend to agree with a lot of what you have said here. I am grateful that they have at least listened to our concerns. I have been careful to ensure that my correspondence has been polite and constructive at all times and spoken to the MA over the phone as well as by email. As long as the PPC leave after the 3 months I'll consider it a victory.

tom_cahill

Umkomaas said:

The '3 month trial period' is a pretty common entree across the PPC network. It will, by osmosis, slide into a much longer term contract if no one does anything to stop it. Then the termination of the contract will carry severe penalties placing the landowner between a rock and a hard place - cough up the swingeing cancellation fee, or let the PPC loose to hoover up motorists by the score for the n years of the full contract. 

I'd be asking your MA for precise dates of the trial period, how it will be 'reviewed' and by whom, what criteria will they use to determine cancellation/continuation, will the views of tenants form part of the review process. Don't take your eye off this now, or you'll sleepwalk into a lengthy (3-5 years) period of PPC hell!

The MA gave precise dates in their letter yesterday. They said the last day of operation will be 25th October, 2020. Do you think I should now write to the MA, thank them for listening but also warn them that they need to be aware that this 3 month contract could easily evolve into a much longer contract that would involve considerable cancellation charges? Not sure I can do much more as a tenant to be honest.